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Re: Norreyna

From:Dan Jones <feuchard@...>
Date:Wednesday, April 11, 2001, 23:08
Oskar Gudlaugsson wrote:

> Okay, gauging from this data: > > > >Ef norreyna wa yenow goed fer Haelend, cwa's yenow goed fer mec! > > And some of what you've said, I guess the following things: > > * Front rounded vowels are derounded - evident in the lang's name > itself, "Norreyna", but also in "fer" (< ON "fyr", modern Swedish "för").
Yep. However, "u" can be pronounced /y/ and the digraph "oe" represents rounded /E/, from ON ó.
> * OE spelling (with yogh converted to "y"); "þ" included?
Roughly. "Y" represents /@/ when vocalic and /j/ when consonantal. No thorn or edh, they're both represented as "th", which is /D/ when intervocalic and /T/ everywhere else.
> * Some Anglicisms, such as "yenow"... though older ON did have "gnóg", it > generally lost the "g" in all dialects; derived words retain it, though, > even in Modern Icelandic, e.g. "gnægð" (~richness).
Yep, words I think "fit in" more are borrowed from OE, like yenow from genog. There is no system to this, it's all down to aesthetics.
> * Endings generally dropped.
Simplified, not dropped. Here's an example of the three noun declensions: singular 1 2 3 nom. lan nod fadyr gen. lans nodys fadyr obl. lane node fadyr plural nom. lonyr nodyr fedyr gen. lona noda fedra obl. lono nodo fedro
> * Don't know why you have "wa" and not "was" or "war"; what's "cwa's"? By > context, I know it means "it was", but how?
"War" from var, "wa" is a typo. Cwa's = cwa is "which is". Hv becomes cw.
> * I suppose it's pretty much ON word stems with mostly English syntax and > grammar, instead of the original inflections; do you retain Verb-Second?
Largely. V2 is the general rule, except in the preterite one finds V1, though this is merely a stylistic point, whatever flows better.
> Loving this idea,
Someone's taken an interest! I feel gratified now. Dan
> Óskar
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