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Re: Phoneme winnowing continues

From:Elyse Grasso <emgrasso@...>
Date:Thursday, June 12, 2003, 18:50
On Thursday 05 June 2003 10:18 am, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 10:00:56PM -0400, Matt Trinsic wrote: > > Mark, > > Okaikiar sounds interesting. Is there anywhere online to see a > > description or more information on it? I have always been fascinated
> > syllabaries, how does yours work? Coincidentally. > > I'm working on an online description of Okaikiar. The actual language > stuff is still incomplete, but you can see and play with the writing
> here: > > > > > from a weekend trip during which I decided to add a voiced TH/ > > non-voiced Th distinction to slaalehg ihkreen, as most of the other > > phonemes did make that distinction. > > As Christophe pointed out when I was going through this, that's no
> Languages are notoriously inconsistent in their phoneme inventory; > in the case of [T]/[D], English doesn't distinguish them phonetically > even though it makes that distinction elsewhere. :) > > (English has both sounds but they're not phonemically distinct;
> and medial "th" is always [D] while final "th" is always [T]). > > -Mark > >
I think you are over-simplifying 'thin' versus 'then' gives an initial unvoiced and voiced, and my dialect has 'within' mostly unvoiced. -- Elyse Grasso The World of Cherani Station Cherani Tradespeech