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Re: OT: Y/N variants (< OT: English and front rounded vowels)

From:ROGER MILLS <rfmilly@...>
Date:Thursday, December 13, 2007, 0:42
Note your "reply to"... but I guess that's old news

>From: li_sasxsek@NUTTER.NET >Reply-To: dana.nutter@NUTTER.NET > > [] On Behalf Of Eric >Christopherson > > > > Ah, but _n isn't nasalization; it's nasal release, which >applies to > > > consonants, not vowels. IME only fhe negative sound > > routinely gets > > > the > > > nasal treatment, something like ['V~?_n.V~:], which leads to >variant > > > spellings like "hunh-uh". > > > > > > -- Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> > > > > I'm not a phonetician but it appears to me that the >affirmative can > > also be nasalized, though it seems more noticeable somehow in >the > > negative. Also, when nasalization is present, either vowel, or >both > > vowels, can be nasal. IME. I think. > >Yes, I notice a nasalization too, but it seems to be much >lighter than the negative form.
I think all these forms ought to have a great big "nasalized" diacritic over the whole form :-)))) Note that they can be pronounced with velar, alveolar or labial closure... only the nose is open. I'd record normal "hunh-uh" as (all nasalized) ['hV?V]; [1] can also be used. (I guess Christopher's ['V~?_n.V~:] captures this, except for the initial [h])