Re: OT: Y/N variants (< OT: English and front rounded vowels)
From: | ROGER MILLS <rfmilly@...> |
Date: | Thursday, December 13, 2007, 0:42 |
Note your "reply to"... but I guess that's old news
>From: li_sasxsek@NUTTER.NET
>Reply-To: dana.nutter@NUTTER.NET
> > [mailto:CONLANG@listserv.brown.edu] On Behalf Of Eric
>Christopherson
>
> > > Ah, but _n isn't nasalization; it's nasal release, which
>applies to
> > > consonants, not vowels. IME only fhe negative sound
> > routinely gets
> > > the
> > > nasal treatment, something like ['V~?_n.V~:], which leads to
>variant
> > > spellings like "hunh-uh".
> > >
> > > -- Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
> >
> > I'm not a phonetician but it appears to me that the
>affirmative can
> > also be nasalized, though it seems more noticeable somehow in
>the
> > negative. Also, when nasalization is present, either vowel, or
>both
> > vowels, can be nasal. IME. I think.
>
>Yes, I notice a nasalization too, but it seems to be much
>lighter than the negative form.
I think all these forms ought to have a great big "nasalized" diacritic over
the whole form :-)))) Note that they can be pronounced with velar, alveolar
or labial closure... only the nose is open.
I'd record normal "hunh-uh" as (all nasalized) ['hV?V]; [1] can also be
used. (I guess Christopher's ['V~?_n.V~:] captures this, except for the
initial [h])