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Re: The Very Very First Sentence

From:J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>
Date:Sunday, February 15, 2004, 17:43
In a message dated 2004:02:13 09:54:54 PM, hsteoh@QUICKFUR.ATH.CX writes:

>To me, anything geometric is physical by definition. Of course, it may >inhabit a world with absolutely bizarre physics,[**] but nevertheless >still physical. > >[**] And who's that giggling in the back about Ferochromon physics?? ;-)
Bloody! I can't get away with any gigglefits on this list! Hey it was a sympathetic thoroughly amused giggle, maaaan...
>[snip] >> Can we imagine a world with no causes, only random >> phenomenons ? That would litterally be a mad world. > >ww', i're 3gij3lii'! > >;-)
IMHO A close runner-up to this kinda free-for-all world: a Surrealist Hans Bellmer sex-&-violence orgy nightmare crossbred with Clive Barker juicy, wet-dream, ... with Marquis de Sade, Rev. Cotton Mather, H.P. Lovecraft, Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson and Jeffrey Dahmer fightin' over the controls with runnin' commentary, arguements and fisticuffs by Girolamo Savonarola, Anton LeVey, Malcom X, LePen, William S. Burroughs ... with Genghis Khan as moderator/referee ... with Lt. "Mai Lai" Calley, "Blackjack-Happy" O'Dooley, Tamerlane the Conqueror and Attila the Hun as his chief enforcers] *wicked cacklefest!* - notice the total abysmal lack of females or female counter-balancing energies of any kind or, for that matter, any clearly pacifist males (or reasonably hormonally-balanced males) [IMO most of the above-mentioned are rather misogynistic anyways ] -
>> Can we imagine a world where time would be >> single-directional (only past, or only future ?) > >[snip] >AFAIK, time in our universe is pretty much uni-directional. :-)
Or multi-directionally all at once ;) a la Jung's idea of synchronicity... Or the classical Greek idea that the past is before us (we can still "see" our past) and the future is behind us (creeping up to us sliiightly outta view - we get just glimpses... possibly to pounce & pound us to smithereenies - like big kittycats have done to furrymonkeys [& somewhat furless ones as well] since both been around...) Or take this: "...The unknown is neither past nor future - it exists only in the precise present." (Toru Takemitsu) The "alien" is amongst us. Sometimes "the most alien" is right in front of our noses... at least until further notice from the skies... -|-|--|---|-----|--------|-------------| Hanuman Zhang, heeding the Call(ing) to Divine Chaos & Creation _NADA BRAHMA_ < Sanskrit > "sound = Godhead" "You ride the brilliance, You are light, You are the construct, You defy dimension tenn0!, You are what you are, eternal, absolute, You are imperial, sovereign yeah tenn0, tenn0! You breathe redemption, motive, power, You're elemental, super-collider yeah tenn0!, You are air and earth, fire and ocean, You are Word, You are tenn0 tenn0!" - two parts of the song "tenn0" by mortal _LILA_ < Sanskrit > 1. the universe is what happens when God wants to play - Divine Play - the play of the Divine in its Cosmic Dance, whimsy - like a child playing alone God the Cosmic Dancer - whose routine is all creatures and all worlds - the Cosmos flows - a world from the tireless unending resistless stream of God's energy that _is_ Lila 2. joyous exercise of spontaneity involved in the art of creation this is also Lila "...divine chaos ...rumors of chaos have been known to enhance the for the godhead manifests no more of its reality than the limited grammar of each person's imagination and conceptual system can handle. A second advantage is suggested by...the possibilty of many gods, ... each one of us experiencing a unique... revelation. An orderly monistic and monotheistic system... might succumb to a craving for logical coherence, and trim away some of the mystery, rich indeterminancy, and tragic ambiguity in a complete numinous experience. For some temperaments, the ambivalent gentleness and savagery of fate can be imagined effectively in a godhead split into personified attributes, sometimes at war, sometimes in shifting alliance." - Vernon Ruland, _Eight Sacred Horizons: The Religious Imagination East and West_


Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>