Re: Steg's Rokbeigalmki (was Re: Hello everybody)
From: | J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, March 27, 2002, 5:17 |
In a message dated 3/26/02 06.20.24 PM, draqonfayir@JUNO.COM writes:
>wow, thanks! i always used to think that Rokbeigalmki was pretty boring;
>then Sally made me re-do the glossary i sent her during the last
>translation relay, since the compounds, causative forms, etc. weren't
>nearly as boringly transparent as i had thought they were.
Transparency doesn't have to be "boring." IMHO Some of the most
interesting languages with transparency are: Chinese (esp'ly in the
compound-words and even the question-words), German, Dutch ;) and
pidgins/creoles. (Oh and a quite a few AuxLangs as well... I have fond
memories of looking at how Interlingua, Novial, Glosa, Eurolengo, etc. formed
their root-words and compounds - or not).
>cool! can _.lilaa_ refer to any kind of creative activity?
I think so (so far). It also means "the evolutionary process by which the
Cosmos came into being (the Big Bang, nucleo-genesis)."
I am trying to make all my word-roots "semantically multivalued."
To overcome amibiguity/ies, use of synonyms with the root to
dis-ambigiuate, some examples off the top of my head:
_AArt-.lilaa_ Capital A Art (perjorative),
_dada-.lilaa_ anti-art(experiential art),
_daeda-.lilaa_ /d@da Lila/ craft (not craft as in hobby tho', more
like creating treasures or being a living treasure a la the craftspeople in
Japan designated "Living Treasures" for their crafts-skills)
_nada-.lilaa_ sacred music/scientific music (music based on
cosmology, math, etc),
_sononada-.lilaa_ art music/self-expressive music/Western Classical
music,
_sono-.lilaa_ sound-play/environmental recordings, ambient music/ being
aware of sound playing on one's mind
_.lila-piano_ "toy piano" ::BiG GRiNNie::
Also I have come up the .ur-ae'u'm for "the Godhead": _Panenn(d"oz)_
"All-in/(of-God)" /pan.en~ (d_hoz)/ from the word and concept of
"panentheism":
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/Heraklit1/faqs.htm">Pantheism: FAQs on
pantheism, panentheism, paga…</A>
Panen is almost like the Romanized Sanskrit _Brahman_ /br`Ah_h.ma~n/ in
concept and even vague sound-symbolism! -a CVCVC duplication of _Brahman_'s
C(SV)V(AC)CVC structure.
C= Consonant
V= Vowel
SV= Semi-Vowel
AC= Aspirated Consonant
>i always liked the different stages in the creation of Your Conlang
>Formerly Known as Lego, as well as the evolution that you put it through
>every so often into a different form.
::bows:: thank you. I hope .ur-ae'u'm (the ConLang formerly known as a
hella'lotta things, hehe) is approaching a much more stable level ... maybe
::WiCKeD VRiL GRiNNie:: been ponderin' how many letters to eliminate from
the .ur-ae'u'm alphabet and still have a pretty neat (& wicked) set of
phonemes. (I have always liked /v/ instead of /b/ ferinstance).
Learning about IPA has led me to, hehe, some Caucasian languages (i.e.
Tsez and Karbardian/East Circassian) and a realization that , Eureka!!, these
sounds can be used as grammatical particles, locatives, etc. thus having a
bunch of "empty words" that will not be (too) distracting to the "loaded
words" - the semantically multivalued nuclei - and can be dropped from lines
of poetry (a la Classical Chinese poetry) or even in "normal" sentences to
reduce length!!!!
Hanuman Zhang {HANoomaan JAHng} /'hanuma~n dZa'hN/
~§~
_LILA_ <from Sanskrit> = "Divine Play" - the 'joyous exercise of spontaneity
involved in the art of creation' (Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan)...the play of
creation, destruction, & re-creation, the folding & unfolding of the cosmos...
both the delight & enjoyment of this moment, & the play of [the] God[head]
("the universe is what happens when God wants to play").
_Spielraum_ <from German> = free scope to experiment with things & ideas; to
toy with ideas; room to play in
WHIM = 1a. a sudden fancy; a caprice. b. capriciousness. 2. a kind of
windlass for raising ore or water from a mine. [17th century: origin unknown]
WHIMSY (plural forms: WHIMSIES, WHIMSEYS) = 1. a whim; a capricious
notion or fancy. 2. capricious or quaint humour. [related to WHIM-WHAM
]/Italian _capriccio_, French _boutade_
WHIM-WHAM = a toy or plaything