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Re: Alphabets with logographic symbols

From:David J. Peterson <dedalvs@...>
Date:Friday, January 30, 2009, 21:56
On Jan 30, 2009, at 11∞05 AM, Arthaey Angosii wrote:��> As I'm working on
adding more glyphs to my font* for the Asha'ille�> alphabet, I'm finding that
I want to add special glyphs for some�> common prefixes, suffixes, and
circumflexes, and even some words.��This is what I did for the orthography
of Tan
Tyls:��http://dedalvs.conlang.org/tantyls/orthography.html��There are,
essentially, a series of special glyphs for common affixes.�Many are slightly
modified versions of the glyphs for the sounds�present in the
affix.��This is also the case with the Stone Script I came up with for
Gweydr:��http://dedalvs.conlang.org/gweydr/stone/body.html��As for a
natural language with glyphs just for affixes, no, no natural�language does
that. There is no natural language orthography that�is sensitive to morphemes
(perhaps further evidence that they don't�exist). If a language has glyphs
for particular affixes, it will be�a part�of a larger system that features
glyphs of the same type for words,�as well as elements larger than and
smaller than words.��> English has "&" instead of "and" sometimes, but
otherwise English is�> pretty strictly alphabetical.��That depends how
standard you want to get. Consider 1337 speak�and emoticons in IMs and
e-mails. They come close. Some others:��#, @, $, %, ¢��I've always
found $ in particular fascinating, since it doesn't conform�to the linear
order of English (i.e. $500 is read "five hundred�dollars").�I've seen this
cause confusion in others *and* myself while writing,�often producing things
like, "That'll cost 500$!"--especially when you�have to produce orthographic
equivalents of things like "I've only got�twenty or thirty dollars on
me."��> Are there ANADEWs for alphabetic writing�> systems with a
sprinkling of logographs thrown in?��I almost want to say that Arabic's
word for Allah is a logograph,�since its pronunciation is pretty far from its
spelling, and it looks�very different from all other words, and often acts
independently�(many Arabic fonts have a character just for the word
"Allah").��OH!!! You know what did it? I totally forgot about
it--my�favorite natural language orthography: Mayan epigraphs. The�Mayan
Epigraphic Database Project is one of the greatest things�in the history of
the world. First, go here to see how the
database�works:��http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/med/glyph_catalog.html��To
see the actual glyphs, go
here:��http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/med/docs/img_catalog��That page
has frames; this one doesn't, in case you don't like
them:��http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/med/docs/_catalog.html��Unfortunately,
there's not an easy way to see what they all mean...�Glyphs are categorized
by their use, not necessarily by their�meaning or sound. Nevertheless, the
look of it at least makes�a distinction between base glyphs and secondary
glyphs.��-David�*******************************************************************�"sunly
eleSkarez ygralleryf ydZZixelje je ox2mejze."�"No eternal reward will forgive
us now for wasting the dawn."��-Jim
Morrison��http://dedalvs.conlang.org/�