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Re: Alphabets with logographic symbols

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Saturday, January 31, 2009, 15:39
On 2009-01-30 Arthaey Angosii wrote:
> > Stenography, perhaps? Court writing? > > Excellent! Thats more or less the level of "logograph > sprinkling" I > had in mind. Thanks. :) Omniglots page on "Shorthand" > has some useful > info. > >
Most stenography systems use very few actual logograms or morphograms, but all use heavy abbreviations and abbreviate the most common morphemes and words to single letters or modified letters. I guess modified letters that stand for morphemes or words may be called logograms, but most modified letters are just other letters or stand for phoneme clusters rather than or in addition to standing for words and morphemes. E.g. in the system I use (Melins Swedish shorthand in my own adaptatation to English: * <t> = <to> * enlarged <t> = <d> = <-ed>, <did> * stretched <d> = <nd> = <do> = <-and> = <-end>. * tilted <d> = <nd> = <dont> * ticked <d> = <ds> = <didnt> * ticked <do> = <nds> = <does> = <ance> * ticked <dont> = <nds> = <doesnt> = <ence> * enlarged <d> = <st> = <stand> * tilted <st> = <nst> = <stands> * stretched <st> = <nst> = <must> * ticked <st> = <stant> * ticked <nst> = <stance> * bent <st> = <stood> * stretched <t> = <nt> = <ant> = <ought> = <-out> * stretched <u> = <ou> = the word <out> * <b><ought> = <bout> but <b><o><t> = <bought> * tilted <t> = <nt> = <not> = <n't> = <-ent> One does similarly with <m> = <them>to get <sm> = = <small> and <com(e)> and <comp> and with <k> = <can> to get <con> and <kt> = <can't> and <cont> and <const(ruct)> and <g> = <get> and <go> and <gone> (but <got> = <g><o> and <gotten> = <g><o><n>!) and <ng> and <long> and <lang(u)> = <ling(u)>, the last a special adapted to my needs. As you see one depends a lot on context to disambiguate. As a last resort a word or morpheme can a be written out. The only morpheme sign which I don't think of as a modification of another sign is <-ing> = <eng>. Technically it can be seen as a reduced tilted <m> but that analysis is not very meaningful. The meaning connection between <-ing> and stretched <-ing> = <und(er)> = = <ond> = <ound> isn't obvious either. /BP 8^)> -- Benct Philip Jonsson -- melroch atte melroch dotte se ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "C'est en vain que nos Josués littéraires crient à la langue de s'arrêter; les langues ni le soleil ne s'arrêtent plus. Le jour où elles se *fixent*, c'est qu'elles meurent." (Victor Hugo)