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Re: THEORY: Language for a Multi-Species Society: Sex-Based Genders Among Neuters, Hermaphrodites, and Sex-Changers.

From:Rodlox R <rodlox@...>
Date:Wednesday, July 6, 2005, 22:18
>From: Tom Chappell <tomhchappell@...> >Reply-To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...> >To: CONLANG@listserv.brown.edu >Subject: THEORY: Language for a Multi-Species Society: Sex-Based Genders >Among Neuters, Hermaphrodites, and Sex-Changers. >Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:00:23 -0700 > >Hello, everyone.
hi.
>I hope my "Subject:" line doesn't draw too much spurious interest.
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>In a galactic society there might be a great many intelligent races which >are not organized biologically as the human race is. >At the very least, some of them might be organized as other terrestrial >species are. >To discuss a "sex-based" gender we would first have to decide what a "sex" >is.
didn't either Pinker or (dang, who wrote 'clockwork orange'?) say that "gender" was a reference to the Latin "genus" for what kind and group something belongs to.
>(Remember we could be dealing across species here. >Some species change sex as they mature --- >and some species change sex in response to trauma or to poor conditions.)
and some, like the deep-sea spoon worm, has detachable sex (which goes swimming away, leaving the rest of the body in the sand).
>1-N 2-N 3-N 4-N 5-N 6-N Lifetime neuter.
if the spoon worm has its brains in the body, I suppose that might apply...if one is willing to ignore the swimming thing in the water.
>And that's if we're talking about one sentient. What if we're talking >about a group? If they're mixed in gender, what gender do we use? >For that matter, what if we are not sure of the gender, or do not wish to >specify it? >We should be able to say what we mean and no more.
that would be nice, but I think some (most? all?) [known] languages add more to the "what we say" than we may realize or want. just a hunch.
>Living inanimate sapient things, like ?? hard to think of an example (maybe >an intelligent animal whose adult phase was sessile?);
a barnacle? a limpet? (there are multiple shadings to "sessile").
>All comments welcome.
I hope this helps, somehow.