Re: CHAT: Must Needs? (WAS: Lighting Some Flames: Towards conlang artistry)
|From:||Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>|
|Date:||Wednesday, March 20, 2002, 18:05|
At 10:56 am +0000 19/3/02, Lars Henrik Mathiesen wrote:
>> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 06:20:23 +0000
>> From: Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>
>> If its inevitable that you do a certain action, then you _need_ to
>> do it. The connexion in meaning is fairly clear, but as for the
>> morphology, I don't know.
>Main Entry: needs
>Etymology: Middle English nedes, from Old English nEdes, from
> genitive of nEd need
>Date: before 12th century
> : of necessity : NECESSARILY <must needs be recognized>
Thanks - I thought "needs" might've originated from some fossilized
inflected form. :)
So 'must needs' = 'must of necessity'/'must necessarily'
That precisely the way I use the phrase! One thing is certain, "must
needs" is _not_ an old way of just saying _must_; the two are not
synonymous, otherwise when I use "must", I could also say "must needs".
This is definitely not so.
Arguably, when I say "must needs", I could just say "must" (tho with some
loss of meaning); but the reverse is simply not true.
the archaic speaker from Sussex :)
A mind which thinks at its own expense
will always interfere with language.
[J.G. Hamann 1760]