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Re: Marking case with articles

From:Tom Wier <artabanos@...>
Date:Monday, March 22, 1999, 4:49
Gary Shannon wrote:

> I might include the option of dropping the article from a singular > nominative and assuming that any noun without an article is the (singular) > subject. > > Has anyone seen or used this approach before in any conlang or natlang?
Do you mean the general idea of marking case with articles, or specifically of dropping the the article with singular nominatives? For the former, certainly. Modern German is basically just such a system, in that, almost without exception, case is indicated by the article alone, with no change on the noun itself (there are a few examples of what are called "weak nouns" that add an extra -n in nonnominative cases, but these are rare and are all basically social terms that would normally retain archaic features). For example, <Hund>, "dog, hound" Sing Pl Nom der Hund die Hunde Acc den Hund die Hunde Dat dem Hund(e)* den Hunden^ Gen des Hundes^ der Hunde * = what was originally a dative singular ending on the noun; archaic and basically not used today ^ = the two exceptions, an -s for genitive singulars (like English) and an agglutinated -n for dative plurals Here's an example of a weak noun, in case you're interested: <Herr>, "Sir, lord, master, Mister" Sing Pl Nom der Herr die Herren Acc den Herrn die Herren Dat dem Herrn den Herren Gen des Herrn der Herren
> Can you think of any pitfalls waiting for me in this approach?
There's nothing particularly wrong with it. There is less redundancy, however, if you do it this way; unless you also inflect the noun (or adjective) itself for case, you put more of a burden on the listener to pick up meaning. ======================================================= Tom Wier <artabanos@...> ICQ#: 4315704 AIM: Deuterotom Website: <http://www.angelfire.com/tx/eclectorium/> "Cogito ergo sum, sed credo ergo ero." There's nothing particularly wrong with the proletariat. It's the hamburgers of the proletariat that I have a problem with. - Alfred Wallace ========================================================