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Re: A New Language

From:Mau Rauszer <maurauser@...>
Date:Sunday, August 18, 2002, 10:55
 From:         andrew <hobbit@...>
 Subject:      Re: A New language

> On 08/17 15:52 Mau Rauszer wrote: > > Myáni, (well), what about the speakers (I like ton be informed about the > > background of a lang [if there exists something like that]). > They are still emerging from my mind. The focal point of the language > is a city. The governor of the city is called the Ninshuhentes, the > Lord Protector in English. He, or she, is an elective monarch. They > are a pre-industrial republic and have been so for several hundred > years.
In a fantasy world or just like our earth? The basic unit in their society is the stumase, which means
> household and is a broader unit than the nuclear family. Any group of > people who share a life together may be called a stumase. They have an > odd naming rule that a parent's surname can only be passed on to the > eldest surviving child while other children use a patrinomic. > Inheriting a family name is considered prestigious.
Are they living in patriarchism?
> > You mean they don't distinguish the second and third person? Hm. > > Interestingly weird. Just a question: do this lang have gender? > > > hmm, I had better run through a few paradigms to explain. > Let's take the verb curishen, to sleep: > > me curish 'I sleep' meme curishen 'we sleep'
I read somewhere that 1st person pronouns tend to contain a nasal. Is this direct in your language?
> te curisht 'you sleep' tete curisht 'you sleep' (plural) > to curisht '* sleeps' ga curishen 'they sleep'
So you form plural pronouns by stem-duplicating.
> * he, she, it, that, this > > So the present tense has three endings: -0 for 1s; -t for 2s, 2p, 3s; > and -en for 1p and 3p. Also if a person said *ga corhyini curishen 'the > kiddies sleep', they would be gently corrected to say ga corhyini > curisht. The -t ending is also used with plural nouns. > > The verb to be is irregular:
Of course :)))))))
> me mi 'I am' memen 'we are' > te si 'you are tete ti 'you are' (plural) > to ti '* is' gan 'they are' > > Five of these pronouns have reduced forms: > > me, m 1s meme, mme 1p > te, t 2s tete, tte 2p > to, tte 3s ga 3p > > The meaning of the reduced form tte is generally clear by context.
But they are probably suffixes, ain't they? (It's hard to pronounce a sole m or t, at least, for me :)
> > [gender] > > 2.0 has natural gender. The agent ending -entes is considered to be > strictly epicene. There may be feminine and neuter forms of the third > person pronoun 'to', but I am resisting it. > > > Is the cluster |ny| confluing into /J/ or should be pronounced strictly as > > /nj/? I tried to say like that but it was tiresome for my tongue. > > > /nj/ but don't sweat it. I think the speakers would understand you if > you used /J/.
OK :)
> > > I like the cluster /kS/. > > Me too. In an older stage of LW I used |sh| for /kS/ but later I found > > that it don't fit into their taste. Hwe, I leave LW alone now 'cuz I'm > > always talking about it. > But the whole point of this list is that it's for people who don't get > bored talking about their languages!
I mean I'm talking about LW even when I don't want. Like the evolution of LW is a bit OT for this subject discussing your 2.0 :)
> > But aren't the triagraph |ksh| too long for a frequent sound? > > > Only when transliterated into latin letters. :) Although the original
Yeah, I was talking about transliteration not their script :)
> script hasn't been developed yet. I have some ideas.
Is it totally dfifferent from anything we know or does it show similarities with a system of our own world?
> - andrew. > -- > Andrew Smith, Intheologus > alias Mungo Foxburr of Loamsdown > > > The tribe need a father who is afraid only of ceasing to love them well. > - James K. Baxter
-- Mau Ábrahám Zsófia alias Mau Rauszer | | "Yú lawe ta mau taqe yibali amis qi ú neb dagu tawiy iq." -- Kipling


andrew <hobbit@...>