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Word-initial glottal stops

From:Carlos Thompson <chlewey@...>
Date:Saturday, December 12, 1998, 16:14
I was trying to figure out if Spanish or myself did pronounce word inicia=
l
glotal stops... and I found out that there are probably a vestigial glota=
l stop
that rises sometimes but most of the cases I don't... including me speaki=
ng
English or Swedish.

Let's take my signature:
   - El sentido inverso.  O el sentido norte.  El sentido com=FAn, tal ve=
z.  O sin
sentido, como aqu=ED.
Even om the words "El"and "O" are phrase initial they have no glotal stop=
 but I
could pronounce them with that glotal stop but it sounds a little weird.

The "O el..." tends to glide or even diphthongise when speaking quickly b=
ut even
on careful pronunciation there is no /?/.  This doesn't mean glotal stops=
 does
not exists in Spanish, some words with geminated vowels would sound with =
a
little glotal stop:
"creer" would sound either [kre'Er] with diphtongal glide, [kre'?er] with=
 glotal
or [kre:r] and even [krer] in very fast pronunciation.
"Saavedra": [sa'Be.Dra] (in my accent [D] stands for an alveolar fricativ=
e),
[sa.a'Be.Dra] or [sa.?a'Be.Dra] where [a.a] stands for a long [a:] with t=
onal
diference (first [a] higher than second [a]).  Probably the glotal stop o=
ption
is the less common but will rise in very carefully pronunciation.
Onomatopoeyic for sheep's sound: "Beeeee" /be?e?e?e?e/, and slopy disagre=
ement
"=A1ah-ah!" /a?a/ would use those glotal stops.  (Actually in my idiolect=
 I would
use two voiced glotal stops but I guess this is not standard Spanish, not=
 even
the dialect around me.)


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                                      o_o
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dw=3D=3D=3Dw=3D=3D=3D=3D#######
   Chlewey Thompin                              ## ####
   http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/9028/     ## ## ##
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   - =BFPor qu=E9 no?
   - No tiene sentido.
   - =BFQu=E9 sentido?  El sentido no existe.
   - El sentido inverso.  O el sentido norte.  El sentido com=FAn, tal ve=
z.  O sin
sentido, como aqu=ED.
    (-- Graeville 2)