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Re: THEORY: [i:]=[ij]? (was Re: Pronouncing "Boreanesia")

From:jesse stephen bangs <jaspax@...>
Date:Thursday, November 2, 2000, 22:00
Steg Belsky sikayal:

> On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 04:19:02 -0500 Jeff Jones <jeffsjones@...> > writes: > > I've never heard of "Ying", but I would render it /jIN/, and [jiN] > > since > > /I/ tends toward [i] before /N/. "Yiddish" is definitely /jIdIS/, > > though. > > AHD2 agrees, which is good, because when I was young I heard a fair > > amount > > of Yiddish words, since many of my friends' grandparents spoke the > > language. > > > > Jeff > - > > Okay, so far a few people have said that they have [iN] and not [IN].... > As far as i can tell, i say [I], and "ring" has the same sound (central > high unrounded vowel) as in "bit". [iN] sounds unnatural to me for an > English sound-combination.
On the contrary, I find [IN] to be illegal, and "ying," sing," "ring," etc. all have [i]. But all of my vowels misbehave before [N]--"hang" is [hE~N], *not* [h&~N], as some people have it.
> > > -Stephen (Steg), whose "Language, Culture, & Communication in the U.S." > class is talking about accents now > "...eitein gam ferret..." ~ mishearing of the song _yafa sheli_ by eyal > golan >
Jesse S. Bangs jaspax@u.washington.edu "It is of the new things that men tire--of fashions and proposals and improvements and change. It is the old things that startle and intoxicate. It is the old things that are young." -G.K. Chesterton _The Napoleon of Notting Hill_