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Re: THEORY: [i:]=[ij]? (was Re: Pronouncing "Boreanesia")

From:Adrian Morgan <morg0072@...>
Date:Wednesday, November 1, 2000, 22:28
Kristian Jensen wrote:

> Its true that for all practical purposes, [j] and [w] are equivalent to > [i] and [u] respectively. But it is still possible to glide from say [i] > to [j]. Its a matter of a slight difference in aperture.
Y'know, I'm still really confused about [u]/[U]. 1. The vowel in moon/you/true/do bears no relation whatsoever with the [w] in water/well/wonder. 2. The vowel in good/book/wool/woman is similar to [w] but a little wider. 3. Some differences between the vowels in (1) and (2) are that the jaw and tongue are lower in the latter. The sounds are _very_ different, the latter being harsher, the former more 'musical'. 4. The vowel in school/cool/fool/tool is very close to [w]. 5. The main difference between (2) and (4) is that the latter is tighter. 6. I know that my _book_ is not [bok], because if it was then my _could_ would sound like an Irish pronunciation of _code_, which it certainly doesn't.
> In cases where a semivowel is next to a vowel with an identical place > of articulation (like "yiddish", "ying", "woo"), the semivowels can > become a bit more closed.
The first two examples are [jI] not [ji], no? The third I just don't get. I'm quite certain I've never heard _anyone_ pronounce "woo" such that the {w} even remotely resembles the {oo}. -- web. | Here and there I like to preserve a few islands of sanity netyp.com/ | within the vast sea of absurdity which is my mind. member/ | After all, you can't survive as an eight foot tall dragon | flesh eating dragon if you've got no concept of reality.