Re: THEORY: [i:]=[ij]? (was Re: Pronouncing "Boreanesia")

> I think that perhaps I'm all wrong everywhere. But maybe
> not. You can probably ignore my last post, and all my
> other posts. I've probably done this in the wrong order.
> But, since I discovered that everything here was so
strange,
> I've read the archives (something I should've done first).
> I now think I understand it all.
So you've read the web page with the ASCII transcriptions
defined on it?

My own problem is ... no sound card.

> >                     In Brisbane         For me (in
Melb.)
> > >not    = [nOt]       [nOt]             [not] (where the
> > >                                       [o] is a
> > >                                       backwards-script
a)

[o] is Irish _oh_, so they tell me.

> > >gone   = [gO:n]      [gO:n]            [go:n] (where
> > >                                       the [o:] is a
tad
> > >                                       tighter than
above)

Well, again, this isn't [o].

But tell me, Tristen: I've mentioned on this list a couple
of times that _gone_ is the *only* word in the entire
language that contains this phoneme to me. Do you agree with
this?

> born   =                                  [bO:n]
I believe your [o] is really [O]. I don't know the symbol
for the vowel in _born_.

It's similar to the Scottish _bone_, and I believe it's the
letter that Swedish transcribes with circle-over-A.


> > >note   = [no-yt]     [no-yt]           [no-u-t] (maybe
> > >                                       not)
[y], [u-], who knows, just take a guess :-)

> > >murk   = [mR:k]      [mo-:k]         [m3:k] ([3] being
> > >                                             the IPA
> > >                                             backw
epsilon,

Is that like [R] but not as tight? I only know a handful of
IPA symbols, so I always round off to the nearest one I
know.

> what's [R]?)
Consonant _r_ in those dialects where you make _r_ with the
lips (e.g. Australian).

Whereas [r] is consonant _r_ in those dialects where you
make it by raising the tongue.

I use [R] for the vowel in _bird_ only because I don't know
the correct symbol, and sometimes near enough is good enough
:-)

> > >air    = [e:@]       [e:@_^] ~ [e:]  [E:]
So _air_ isn't a diphthong for you? Interesting.

Adrian.