Re: How to kick the infinitive habit
|From:||Doug Barr <lingoman@...>|
|Date:||Friday, October 13, 2006, 21:09|
Halkomelem Salish doesn't have infinitives either, it uses
nominalized verbs with the article that refers to hypothetical or
remote entities. The example below is in the Cowichan/Island
dialect's orthography (more or less - the spacing of the 1Sg
possessive prefix and the nominalizing prefix is problematic and
differs by dialect, I am using the Musqueam/Downriver dialect's
spacing because I am more familiar with that dialect). Note that "u"
represents the schwa /@/ - also, the best CXS equivalent for
"tl'" (ejective lateral affricate, I *think*) I can come up with is /
t_K_>/. Morphologically the nominalizing s- is a prefix, however it
does NOT cause de-aspiration of a following non-ejective stop in
verbal nominalizations (it does as a noun prefix), so can be written
suffixed to the previous word in verbal contexts.
Nustl'i' kw'unus nem'. /n@'st_K_>i? ,k_w_>@n@s 'nem?/
Nu-s-tl'i' kw'u nu-s-nem' = my-[nominalizer]-want/be.precious
(Literal) My (hypothetical) going [is] what I want. (Free) I want to go.
'S fhearr an saoghal ionnsachadh na sheachnadh. Better to teach (or
learn) the world than shun it. (Gaelic proverb)
On Oct 1, 2006, at 12:24 PM, R A Brown wrote:
> Indeed there are - modern Greek is an example that comes to mind
> immediately. Where other languages may use an infinitive or gerund,
> modern Greek use a clause: na + subjunctive.
> Thus, e.g. I want go/ I wanna go ---> I want that I (should) go
> Smoking is forbidden/ It is forbidden to smoke ---> That you
> (should) smoke is forbidden.