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Re: Syllabary - Take Two

From:Jean-François Colson <fa597525@...>
Date:Thursday, February 17, 2005, 21:04

On Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:46 PM, Gary Shannon wrote:

>> But it's not user-friendly for everyone. >> To type the character "|" I have to type AltGr (the >> right Alt key) and the >> "1" key. On some laptop computers with only one Alt >> key (commonly at the >> left of the space key), I must type Ctrl-Alt-1 (a >> combination of THREE >> keys!!!). > > I chose the bar just because it it a character not > commonly used. It could just as easily have been ^ or > %. Since the bar is a normal character on a standard > PC keyboard I assumed (wrongly, as it turns out) that > everyone had that key on their keyboard.
In fact I do have that key on my keyboard, but that's one of those keys with three characters on them: * one of those characters (the ampersand) is displayed when I simply type on the key, * another one (the digit 1) is displayed when I type on the key with the shift key pressed, * and a last one (the vertical bar) is displayed when I type on the key with the AltGr key (or the Ctrl-Alt combination) pressed. Other characters which I can type only with the AltGr key: @, #, {, }, [, ], ´, `, ~, \, €. So when I need the vertical bar to say "or" in a C++ program or to write an absolute value, there's no problem at all. But if I have to type AltGr or Ctrl + Alt for a third of the syllables and shift for an half of the syllables, since Keyman exists and I have a license, I prefer to use it...
> >> And remember that the apostrophe can be >> automatically replaced by some other >> character in programs such as Word. >> >> At all events, if ever you'd design such a font, to >> use it more easily I'd >> write a Keyman file such as: >> >> VERSION 6.0 >> >> NAME "ASCIISyllabary" >> > > I'm not familiar with Keyman. > >> Which would allow me to type more easilly (and more >> intuitively) like >> illustrated in the table below: >> >> b bi bo bu by be >> >> B b B' b' B| b| >> > > Yes, that's works out nicely. > > The use of a second charatcer to modify the syllable > raises an intersting idea. Suppose it were permitted > to type a consonant and then a vowel, but in the > design of the font the consonant was drawn to be the > left half of a symbol and the vowel drawn to be the > right half of the same symbol. (or the top and bottom > of the same symbol). That way each syllable would be > a single symbol, but it would be composed of a > consonant part and a vowel part. Similar in concept, > I suppose, to hangul. > > Would that be a syllabary? Technically each syllable > has a unique symbol but that symbol is composed of > pieces that are alphabetic in nature.
In a syllabary, every syllable is not necessarilly written with a single symbol. For example, in Japanese there is the following trio: は = ha in hiragana ば = ba in hiragana (written as ha with two little strokes) ぱ = pa in hiragana (written as ha with a little ring) Still in the hiragana syllabary, you have: き = ki よ = yo しょ = kyo (= ki followed by a small yo) In East Cree you have: ᐸ = pa (that's a character similar to a less-than sign) ᐹ = paa (pa with a dot above) ᑆ = pwaa (paa with a dot before) More, when you change the vowel, you simply turn the character (or you mirror it if it's not symmetrical). Therefore you have: pa = ᐸ (a less-then-like character) pi = ᐱ (a capital-lambda-like character) pu = ᐳ (a greater-then-like character) pe = ᐯ (a V-like character) Jean-François