imagining language(s)& possible concultures
|From:||Jonathan Chang <zhang2323@...>|
|Date:||Sunday, May 7, 2000, 18:00|
In a message dated 2000/05/07 09:49:20 AM, Andrew Smith, Intheologus
>Rioting in alternative histories! Yay!
>> Would the Federation have left it at that or gone on into Persia to smash
>> the Empire at its heart?
>I think you would need leadership that recognises that a future
>resurgent Persia would threaten the Federation. Either Persia would
>need to be pacified or a buffer zone created.
>Does hellenization occur in the Middle East and Central Asia? If there
>wasn't I would question whether the Abrahamic religions as we understand
>them could have come into existence.
Perhaps if the Jews had a strong alliance with the Greeks - or were under
some kind of protectorate autonomy under the Greeks, that could be a fragile
buffer zone (& this supposing that the Arabic tribes remained fragmented &
more concerned with fighting sporadic tribal wars with each other & the Jews).
And perhaps the Empire of Asoka [remember my original premise of the India
n Asokan empire not ending?], a Kurdic tribal confederation, & the "Eternal"
T'ang Dynasty Empire of China join against Persia... to maintain the free
flow of trade & cultures along the Silk Road. I think Persia is somewhat
out-numbered & out-gunned - even if the Persians somehow subjugated the
Turkic & Arabic people & forced them into conscripted armies =)
>> Such a Hellenic Federation, it would seem to me, would be less likely to be
>> interested in northern Gaul or Britain than the Romans were, so Gallic
>> could've survived in northern Gaul (tho I think the English model would
>> suggest that it eventually the Frankish German dialect would've established
>> itself there).
>Maybe Northern Gaul would have been the equivalent of Roman Age Ireland,
>picking up the trade it wants from the Federation but ensuring that it
>stays outside of its hegemony. It might have peacefully become
>hellenized rather than being conquered forcefully. A vassel state
>rathter than a province. The British in this history might not be
>dependent on imperial forces to protect them and might have kept the
>> Oh yes, and in this world, there'd have been no Brithenig either ;)
>No, but there might have been a Brythonic language with a Anglo-saxon
>superstrata spoken across southern Britain.
> ::hmm, intriguing:::