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Re: Why grammar is so complex a subject

From:Wesley Parish <wes.parish@...>
Date:Monday, January 2, 2006, 8:14
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:50, Cian Ross wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:35, Gary Shannon wrote: > > Counter argument: For emerging proto-humans in a > > rudamentary hunter-gatherer society there are a very > > limited number of things that need to be discussed, > > and the ways of putting those things together into a > > single utterance are mathematically very limited. "Me > > goat see", "Goat me see", "Me see goat", "Goat see > > me.", "See goat me.", "See me goat." Which, for > > reasons of survival, would have to be differentiated > > in meaning from "Tiger see me.", "See tiger me.", etc. > > I'm not quite comfortable with at least one assumption you seem to be > making here. Why would language even at a very early stage necessarily > be limited to matters of immediate physical survival? Language doesn't > seem to be necessary for survival at all: AFAIK humans are the only > species that use syntactic language as such and while we're very > successful we're not alone in being successful. I have to wonder if > language more likely started from interpersonal interactions and then > later turned "outwards" to deal with other matters?
Most current palaeoanthropology I've read recently regards human language as a form of grooming. A form that could groom over a distance, furthermore. It was only after the "conceptual breakthrough" that simultaneously led to the development of art, that language-as-grooming, language-as-warning, and language-as-training, and a heap of other functions of homo sapiens language coalesced. Wesley Parish
> > > Regards, > Cian Ross > cian@cox-internet.com > http://crlh.tzo.org/~cian/conlang/
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