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Re: Why grammar is so complex a subject

From:Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@...>
Date:Wednesday, December 28, 2005, 19:54
On 12/28/05, Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> wrote:

> Gary Shannon <fiziwig@...> writes:
> >... Therefore conlangs should not be "designed", they should be > > "used into existence." ... > > Hmm? Why (not)? They are conlangs. Of course, you may very well use > a different approach, but since grammar is a model for simplifying the > chaos, it seems like a very feasible approach to describing a lang and > thus, a conlang.
The approach Gary suggests is probably a good one for naturalistic artlangs. What also works well is a method involving a priori design of some aspects of the language and allowing other aspects to emerge gradually from actual use of the language. In fact, I suspect that pure a priori design may be impossible if you want a language complete enough to use -- you probably can't foresee every issue at the beginning, so some grammatical and semantic issues can only be resolved after you've started using the language. Some of the problems that emerge at this stage would require, for their optimal solution, fundamental changes that would retroactively make much of the corpus ungramatical, so you may prefer a less optimal solution that allows the existing corpus to stand (and doesn't require you to re-learn basic aspects of the language). This is the approach I'm taking with gjâ-zym-byn; for the first few years it was all designed a priori, but once I started using it extensively, I ruled out any changes that would make the existing corpus obsolete or require me to relearn aspects of the language I'm already fluent with. -- Jim Henry http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/gzb/gzb.htm ...Mind the gmail Reply-to: field

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