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Re: CHAT: IPA Question

From:H. S. Teoh <hsteoh@...>
Date:Wednesday, January 29, 2003, 17:53
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 03:39:02AM +1100, Tristan wrote:
[snip]
> Bush is neither American nor did we vote him in.
I'll leave the hilarity of this statement to speak for itself. :-)
> And leave Howard out of this. I was too young to have a say in that, so > it's not my fault. And anyway, only I'm allowed to bag Australia. You > keep out of that. You have Canada and America to bag, okay?
LOL... [snip]
> >But I hope you realize I was only transcribing Canadian English as I've > >picked it up since coming here. If you *really* wanted to know my native > >English idiolect sounds like, let's just say, [its5 nAt2 wat2 ju:5 ti:Nk2 > >la5, ju5 prA1li2 kan2 an5n@5st&n1 it2 &1ni1wei2 ju5no3]. (Numbers are > >Hokkien tones; tone 1 = 33, tone 2 = 35, tone 3 = 13, tone 5 = 21.) > > > I imagined you'd be something like that and was initially surprised to > see how good your English was... But then, I'd forgotten you'd moved to > Canada...
LOL... I did exaggerate the Hokkien-tones part, though. That's more like streetspeak; the educated elite tend to pronounce it closer to British (colonial British, not modern British). [snip]
> >Watcha staring at me like that for? You asked for it! :-P > > > No I didn't. You gave it to me.
Wa, you lai dat sommore and I no fren you anymo ho~? :-) [snip]
> Yeah, but were you a happy-snap tourist or an educated elistist tourist?
Not sure what "elistist" is. ;-) Is that keyboard-speak? :-P [snip]
> >LOL... I'm not an American, thank you very much. I spell it "velarised", > >but apparently you spell it "veralised". Weird Aussies. ;-) > > > I blame my keyboard. The R and L keys are right next to each other. And > if you spell it 'velarised', why do you spell it 'realized', hmm?
American contamination. They're too close to the border here. :-P [snip]
> >The latter sounds like "bane" to me. :-) > > > See, I knew it was you who heard badly. You ought to see an ear doctor.
Indeed. And Aussies need to see a mouth doctor. Obviously they're speech-impaired^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HI mean, phonetically-challenged. :-P [snip]
> >I don't know NZ phonetics, so you've lost me a bit there. > > > Basically, it's the same as Australian, except /8/ is /2/, /I/ is > /@/-like, and the other front short/lax vowels are shifted up one step. > It sounds incredibly funny. Instead of fish-and-chips shops, they have > fush-and-chups shops.
I see. And somebody was telling me how they say /dZe:s@z/ instead of /dZi:z@z/. [snip]
> What..? Are you telling me there aren't aliens and yellow four-fingered > people and all that other weird stuff?! Argh! My world's falling apart!
[snip] *blurble* *blurble*. :-P T -- What are you when you run out of Monet? Baroque.

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