Re: CHAT: IPA Question

John Cowan wrote:

>Tristan scripsit:
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>>You, presumably, haven't heard of one George W. Bush, or the people who
>>voted him in.
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>Who, us?  We didn't vote for him.
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You could've, I couldn't've.

>>Nor is [bremoir@n], but if I went around saying that for 'cucumber',
>>you'd be excused for not understanding me.
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>Hey, I've managed to cope with [kur\dZEt] for "zucchini".
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[kur\dZEt]? Sounds... odd...

>>Stress, maybe length... the recitation form of 'been' and 'bean' are the
>>same, but when spoken in a bunch of other words, one woul be [bin] and
>>the other [b@i;n] I guess...
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>What do you mean by [;]?
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[:\], apparently. My bad. I might be speaking Kirsh, I'm not sure.

>Americans know what fish-and-chips is, even if we may be a bit vague
>about Welsh rabbit, Bombay duck, toad-in-the-hole, bangers and mash, and
>bubble and squeak.  And we may perhaps be excused for doubting whether
>_riz-de-veau a la financiere_ is really the smile of a calf prepared
>according to the recipe of a she-banker.
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You do? Rumor has it that you didn't. Rumor also has it that we have
different ideas on what a pizza is, but I've never been able to confirm
that. Describe a vegetarian pizza from the base up.

>North American /&/ is essentially [E_A], that is [E] with advanced
>tongue root.
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What's an advanced tongue root?

>>but based on the fact that my [e] has run up in
>>comparison with your [E], and Kiwi [I] is the equivalent of my [e] (so
>>they say nick for neck), and their [e] is the equivalent of my [&] (so
>>they say ken for can), it would not suprise me if my [&] was higher than
>>yours.
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>It's really confusing when you play fast and loose with slashes and brackets
>like this.  [E] is [E] and [e] is [e] everywhere, though you may realize
>/E/ as [e].
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Oh, sorry. More like /e/=Am. [E], Oz [e], NZ [I]; /&/=Am. [E_A], Oz
(something) NZ [e]. Much clearer. I'll try that next time ;)

Tristan.

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