Re: CHAT: IPA Question

H. S. Teoh wrote:

>On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 03:39:02AM +1100, Tristan wrote:
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>>Bush is neither American nor did we vote him in.
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>I'll leave the hilarity of this statement to speak for itself. :-)
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I blame typing at 3.39 a.m.

>LOL... I did exaggerate the Hokkien-tones part, though. That's more like
>streetspeak; the educated elite tend to pronounce it closer to British
>(colonial British, not modern British).
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So what exactly do you mean by colonial British? India, America, Canada,
Australia and New Zealand were all British colonies at one stage or
another, but you'd probably be as hard-pressed to make any
generalisations about their speech than you could about their speech and
Britain's speech.

>Wa, you lai dat sommore and I no fren you anymo ho~? :-)
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Pardon??

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>>Yeah, but were you a happy-snap tourist or an educated elistist tourist?
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>Not sure what "elistist" is. ;-) Is that keyboard-speak? :-P
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Or 3.30 in the morning speech, both work.

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>>>LOL... I'm not an American, thank you very much. I spell it "velarised",
>>>but apparently you spell it "veralised". Weird Aussies. ;-)
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>>I blame my keyboard. The R and L keys are right next to each other. And
>>if you spell it 'velarised', why do you spell it 'realized', hmm?
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>American contamination. They're too close to the border here. :-P
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You have an excuse for everything, don't you?

>Indeed. And Aussies need to see a mouth doctor. Obviously they're
>speech-impaired^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HI mean, phonetically-challenged. :-P
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I've already suggested that to you. You can't re-suggest it!

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>>>I don't know NZ phonetics, so you've lost me a bit there.
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>>Basically, it's the same as Australian, except /8/ is /2/, /I/ is
>>/@/-like, and the other front short/lax vowels are shifted up one step.
>>It sounds incredibly funny. Instead of fish-and-chips shops, they have
>>fush-and-chups shops.
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>I see. And somebody was telling me how they say /dZe:s@z/ instead of
>/dZi:z@z/.
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I can't say I've ever heard that one, but that doesn't mean it's not
true. At any rate, they're a funny-sounding lot.

Tristan.

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