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Re: CHAT: IPA Question

From:H. S. Teoh <hsteoh@...>
Date:Thursday, June 20, 2002, 19:08
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 08:13:48PM +0200, Christophe Grandsire wrote:
> En réponse à "H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh@...>:
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> > There's also another word which has the plural form _`aarii'_: the > > _`aa_ > > is [a:] with a smooth breathing. I've *no* idea how to indicate the > > smooth > > breathing on the _a_ in IPA. It's approximately a [@a] glide, but not > > quite.
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> What vowel does the glide sound like? IPA has a "non-syllabic" diacritic (a > subscript arch they call it, in X-SAMPA it's _^) which is very handy as it can > turn any vowel into a glide.
!!!! I think you've hit upon the answer for my question...
> IPA Help gives the example of [e_^] for instance. > So maybe your glide is basically [@_^], or even [3_^] (funny, those X-SAMPA > compounds nearly look like emoticons ;))) ). Just choose which vowel it sounds > like :)) .
[snip] OK, I just googled through a few IPA websites, and I think I got the answer now. The [`] prefix in Ebisedian (diacritic in my LaTeX-ified orthography) is simply IPA's [_^] diacritic. It all makes sense now: `u --> [u_^u] = [wu] `y --> [y_^y] = [jy] `i --> [i_^i] = [ji] and therefore, the same must hold for the other vowels: `w --> [8_^8] `a --> [a_^a] and so on. Cool, I'll have to update my vowel descriptions :-) So basically, _`o'mi_ is pronounced [o_^omi]. (If you must know, it refers to that bluish green color along the lines of aquamarine/cyan/turqoise. Well, not quite turqoise; it's a bit greener than that.) And the plural of _aa'ri_ [a:r`i] ("foreignness", "otherness") is _`aarii'_ [a_^a:r`i:]. Wow, it sure looks ugly in SAMPA. It'll look much nicer when typeset with TIPA, I promise! ;-) Finally, I can represent the three "voicings" of an Ebisedian vowel: "harsh": ha [ha] "abrupt": a [?a] "smooth": `a [a_^a] Cool. Thanks to all who responded :-) T -- Don't modify spaghetti code unless you can eat the consequences.

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