Re: CHAT: IPA Question

Maybe a [M\] "turned m, right leg; velar approximant, cf [M]"

Tibetan has a similar phenomenon as what you describe.  Before non-high
vowels it is realized as a voiced glottal fricative [h\].

At 10:10 2002-06-20 -0400, H. S. Teoh wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Recently, I've come across this feature in my conlang again, which poses a
>problem with IPA. In Ebisedian, initial vowels sometimes may have a
>"smooth breathing", marked with a (`) prefix. It indicates, approximately,
>that the vowel begins with a semivowel.
>
>For example, the well-known (to me :-P) feminine proper noun prefix,
>_`y-_, is pronounced [jy], as opposed to the _y_ in the nullar
>subordinating particle, _yni_, which is pronounced [?yni].
>
>Now, for vowels like [y] and [u], it's pretty easy to represent the
>"smoothening" in IPA: `y --> [jy], `i --> [ji], `u --> [wu].
>
>The problem is, now I have a word, `o'mi, pronounced [omi] but with a
>"smooth" sound before the [o], but I don't know how to represent this in
>IPA. It's somewhere between [wo] and [Go] (with an almost non-fricative
>[G]), but not quite like either one.
>
>There's also another word which has the plural form _`aarii'_: the _`aa_
>is [a:] with a smooth breathing. I've *no* idea how to indicate the smooth
>breathing on the _a_ in IPA. It's approximately a [@a] glide, but not
>quite.
>
>Any ideas??
>
>
>T
>
>--
>Why is the sea always restless? Its bed is too rocky to sleep on.

/BP 8^)>
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