Re: The Story of Guper the Foolish Troll

At 18:17 on 27.2.1999, Raymond A. Brown wrote:

>
> Presumably t, d, s, z and l are /c/, /J/, /S/, /Z/ and
>/{vcd,pal,lat}/
> respectively (I can't find a symbol for the latter in
>Kirshenbaum ASCII
> IPA).
It would be [l;]!

> But what exactly is r-palatal? Is it a palatalized version of
>the
> apical trill, i.e. the palatalized /r/ of Russian and Gaelic?
It is possible to pronounce a palato-cacuminal(!) sulcal
approximant, and IIRC some American English pronounce their /r/
this way.  Maybe some Statesians who know their phonetics can
fill us in?

(I also just tried a sulcal central palatal approximant, but it
almost made me vomit! ;)

>
> Eh? Voiced glottal stop? Surely this is physically impossible,
>since:
The Nenc [nEn@ts] used to be ascribed this animal.  More recent
sources (Catford) say that the two "glottals" of Nenc are
actually EPIglottals, although they correspond to /?/ in other
Samoyed languages.

/BP


    B.Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
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