Re: The Story of Guper the Foolish Troll

On Sun, 28 Feb 1999, Kristian Jensen wrote:

> Matt wrote:
> >Now, now.  No need to be sarcastic.  Is it possible that when you
> >talk about voiced glottal stops and glottal approximants you really
> >mean voiced *pharyngeal* stops and approximants?  Pharyngeals are
> >produced by constricting the pharynx, between the velum and the
> >glottis.  As far as I know, voiced pharyngeal stops are found in
> >certain dialects of Arabic.
>
> I hear that in some dialects, they are epiglottal rather than
> pharyngeal.
>
> >Don't know about pharyngeal approximants, but I can certainly
> >imagine them...
>
> The Danish "r" is reported as being in fact a pharyngeal
> approximant. As for it being gurgly, I don't know, perhaps. I'm used
> to the sound of it. But I agree, it may well be one of patrick's
> so-called glottal sounds.
>
> Note also what I wrote in an earlier post, they could also be
> epiglottal. Either way, they are both sounds that are produced in
> the radical region between the velum and the glottis.
>
> Still trying to sort out the confusion,
> -kristian- 8-)
>
Now that I think about it, I do notice that my voiced glottal stop is
more epiglottal than my glottal stop.

Gods!  I need a course in linguistics!

--Patrick