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Re: Russian phonetics question [Was: What's SHCH?]

From:Stephen Mulraney <ataltanie@...>
Date:Monday, July 26, 2004, 14:11
Tristan Mc Leay wrote:

> Stephen Mulraney wrote:
>> about this have been quite firm that it's actually [\s:] (or something >... >> counterpart, [\z:] or so. My question is not so much "is this true?"
> Hmm, what's [\s] and [\z]? Must we introduce entirely new ASCII-IPAs > that don't even seem to have the remotest similarity with SAMPA?
Well, why not? I think this list has proved a fertile breeding ground of systems that aren't quite X-SAMPA :). Actually, I usually stick to X-SAMPA plus one or two additions (which means may or may not be using the current version of CXS. I was nomail for a period during which I think some changes were made... Where can I see the current state of CXS, BTW?), but on this occassion, influenced by my keymap for VIM, I managed to write the symbols backwards. I meant [s\:] and [z\:], not [\s:] and [\z:] :). In anycase, this accidental metathesis probably had the useful effect to forestalling any protests of the kind "Russian has [s_d_j_k], not [s\:]!"
> [kor\s] > would be very misleading indeed with yours.
Hmm, let's not spead the connection between this cock-up and my name too far, now... I can just see it now: "Of course, I'm using Stephen Mulraney's systems, which, I know, is hopelessly ambiguous and completely unnecessary, but hey! I kind of like it! And flame him, not me." -- Stephen Mulraney ataltane@ataltane.net http://ataltane.net This post brought to you by the letter 3 and the number 0xF

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