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Re: Weekly Vocab 6: to know

From:James Worlton <jamesworlton@...>
Date:Friday, May 9, 2003, 0:31
--- "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...> wrote:
> On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 02:29:21PM -0700, Joe Fatula > wrote: > > > True enough. Whenever an infinitive for "modal > can" is called for, > > > "to be able to" is used. "To can" refers to the > process of putting things > > > in cans. :) > > > > And it's pronounced differently, too, so it's > certainly a different word. > > Just like "have" /h&v/ and "have" /h&_rf/, > analogous to Spanish "tener" and > > "haber". > > Maybe in your idiolect that's true, but I don't > think it's true > generally. At least, it's not true for me. As I > say them, > the only differences between the two uses of "have" > and "can" > come from emphasis; most of the time, the main verb > is emphasized, > not the modal, so the vowel in the modal gets > reduced to a schwa or > even disappears. But whenever the modal is > emphasized, for whatever > reason, it sounds identical to the spelled-alike > verb in my pronunciation. > So, for instance, all of these "can"s sound alike > (specifically, like > [k&n]): > > Can you can? > Yes, I can! > Ah, but can you Can-Can? > > As do both of these "have"s ([h&v]): > > I have done it. > I have it. > > -Mark
What about the use of 'have' in the sense of 'need': I have to go to the store. I don't know the correct way to indicate the sound of this, but it seems that it is different than the two examples above (at least to me, and the way I have heard others use it). Oh, and Hi all. This is my first post. I have been lurking for a few weeks and decided to jump in. (Forgive me if this gets posted twice. I don't think it worked the first time.) ===== James Worlton ----------------- Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. -Unknown __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.