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Re: Celtic languages?

From:Muke Tever <hotblack@...>
Date:Tuesday, September 28, 2004, 13:54
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 03:11:52 -0700, Elliott Lash <erelion12@...> wrote:
> --- Ray Brown <ray.brown@...> wrote: > > >> > In the texts we have, we have '-cue' meaning >> 'and'. We also have */p/ >> > being lost - 'uer' for Latin 'super'. >> >> The loss of IE /p/ is common to both Q and P >> 'Celts'. If _uer_ is cognate >> with Latin _super_ we also have a loss of /s/. >> That's very slight evidence. > > Well, actually, it's probably a case of that so-called > IE phenomena "moveable-s" > > The word may have been: > *s-uperi > *uperi > > O.E ofer > Sanskrit upari > Celtic uer > maybe: O. Irish for 'on' > Greek hyper (from *super(i)) > Latin super
Actually Greek |hyper| isn't necessarily from *super, given that all initial y- (save the name of the letter itself) comes out to hy- in any case, whether there was an *s or not. Given that Italic is apparently the only one with an *s there (which it also has in |sub|, which again isn't attested in other families) the Italic s- is probably an innovation. *Muke! -- website: http://frath.net/ LiveJournal: http://kohath.livejournal.com/ deviantArt: http://kohath.deviantart.com/ FrathWiki, a conlang and conculture wiki: http://wiki.frath.net/

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Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>Greek hy & "movable-s" (was: Celtic languages?)