A Situation.

de: Robert J. Petry <ambassador@...>
ad: Multiple recipients of list AUXLANG <AUXLANG@...>
data: Monday, November 02, 1998 11:29 PM
thema: A Situation.


>As all of you know, I quit the auxlang list a while back. Some of you
>posted remarks about that entitled something like "CONCERNED"
>Well, I was concerned, and had to leave to get my head straight, and
>to figure out how to handle a stituation that was subtlely threating
>to my effort to get Occidental going again. Sad to say, some of the
>same situation is still around after all.
Ecce tu vole dicer que io es nunc al lista?

>And, I was not going to say anything about this to the list. But,
>after tonight I've decided to mention something about it and names. I
>have grown to really like this list, and the conlang list. However,
>all is not well still. So, let's just start with the assumption that
>it is strictly _all and completely my fault_, and that I am the one
>who has misunderstood.
>
Ben, io crede que si, tu dice le veritate
in acceptar que tu non ha comprehendite
ben.

>Having said that here's why I left. Jay Bowks. He is why I
>immediately closed the lingue list to anyone without approval. And,
>he did try to join it. He informed me in a private post that if I did
>not have Paul's and Kjell's approval, and maybe others ,
Le veritate del situation, es que jam face
alcun menses, tu e Paul e Kjell e alteres
habeva discussiones, io non te tentava de
informar que sin lor supporto tu non poterea
continuar... non del toto, esque non es
veritate que Kjell te adjutava in obtiner
materiales pro Occidental? Esque le
veritate del cosa io te pote affirmar que
Paul e io e Kjell e io son individuos e non
ha necun gruppo sinistre in le qual le
Interlinguanos face planos pro prevenir
le resurrection de Occ/Interlingue. De
facto un del rationes proque io me
jungeva al lista Auxlang esseva que
Paul faceva un demanda de adjuta
con un texto Occidental al Lista Interlng.
E tunc io me jungeva, desde ille tempore
Paul e io non ha necun relation special,
e Kjell, ille es un altere membro del
lista Interlng. Il non ha necun altere
connexion... ma si io memora correctemente
io te conseliava considerar que ha multos
ex-occidentalistas que nunc son Interlinguistas.
E que con le bon novas del archivos de
Interlingua forsan il essera in le manos
del publico pro poter saper le veritate
de multe questiones nunc al mente de
non pauc auxilinguistas.

>I don't
>recall since no other names were mentioned, that I would not be
>permitted to get Occidental going again.
Bob, tu sape que tu non necessita mi
permisso pro facer lo que tu vole facer,
il es un folle cosa pensar que io pote
controlar tu voluntate, veni homine, de
que ha tu temor? Io non te controla in
le minor parte, tu face como tu vole.

>Now, whether Jay was just
>kidding, or not, I took him seriously and took it as a threat to my
>work, and I took into consideration, rightly or wrongly, that he was
>implying 3 Ilaists would fight against the reestablishment of Occ.
Isto es un accusation vermente
folle. Bob, pro que non considera
tu crescer e lassar esser. :-P

>I'm am probably wrong,
Tu mesmo lo dice.

>but that is how I took his communications.
>And, the situation has not diminished. I just asked Jay an hour or so
>ago to remove my name from the auxilingua list.
Lo qual io faceva, ma como es
tu nomine in le lista del Projecto
Auxilingua connegite con le "situation"?

>Personally, I do not believe what he said about Paul or Kjell.
>However, the implication I took was that they had talked this over by
>private mail.  And, I got the impression Jay was saying those three
>would work to hinder my efforts if they could. Frankly, I think Jay
>was puffing his case too much.
Nulle es plus distante del veritate, Bob.
Tu suffre de un complexe senso de
sensibilitate le qual io non comprehende.
Paul, e Kjell son individuos, io non es
plus que un altere individuo, il non ha
necun gruppo anti-Bob, calma te e
non bibe tante caffeina... :-)))

>So, here's the thing. I WILL NOT STOP WORKING WITH OCCIDENTAL because
>of Jay Bowks or anyone else using such tactics against me.
Il me pare que tu solmente usa mi nomine
pro que io te invia iste messages con le
question, usque tunc non respondite...
Pro que non vole tu parlar del defectos
e detalios del con/auxilinguas? E in special
del que son tu favorite linguas? Pro que?

>I probably should not post this, but it has gotten to the point that
>I can no longer keep my mouth shut. Tomorrow I may wish I had just
>let it go. But, this "crap" has gone on long enough and I want to get
>the air cleared.
E tu continua con le velio de fumo...
le question es: Pro que tu non termina
le propaganda e conversa del con/auxilinguas
e su defectos e su detalios, iste es le
question.

>Now, I will have to again make some decisions on how to handle this
>situation from this point on. I'm sorry to post this as it can
>certainly be misconstrued in every direction imaginable.
>So, with hesitancy in telling you, that is the situation at the
>moment.
E forsan un altere vice le imagination
te ha trovate e frappate cuadratemente...
E tu sensibilitate te prohibe trovar un
responsa al question que io te face e
re-face, nonne, Bob?

>If you have comments, it would probably be better to do it in private
>email.
>
>Sorry to bring this up,
>Bob, x+
>
Io lo regretta, Bob, ma tu me demandava
deler tu addresse... tunc publicamente tue...

Since,
Jay B.