OT realpolitik (wazRe: Cornomerus, if you're going to criticize what I've written - and you have a couple good points - I would appreciate more than that
|From:||J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>|
|Date:||Tuesday, December 16, 2003, 22:48|
In a message dated 2003:12:14 09:51:59 PM, Padraic <elemtilas@...>
writes in response to Robert Jung <RobertMJung@...>:
>> > But never mind that; your post seemed like
>> you don't care about what happened - that politics
>> doesn't matter.
>HERE, they dón't matter. HERE we are conlangers.
>HERE we are interested in how we construct
>languages and their cultures.
Hear hear! Of course one can be "subversive" about politics
and create a conlang &/or conculture with any kind of socio-political
worldview... And that is quite fun and a challenge...
In the past we on the List have had an Axis (German-Japanese-Italian)
conlang idea that had a neo-Fascistic worldview...
My g0miileg0 is a "Neo-Futurist/Konstruktivist/Dada" conlang (a more
specifically a polyglot _mangalang_ of Greco-Latinate, Novial, Japanese, Sanskrit,
Pidgin English and Creole languages - i.e. Bislama; Dutch, Finnish, etc.)
with a decidedly "libertarian socialist" worldview (conservative militant
Anarchist a la Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, Piotr Kropotkin, Mikel Bakunin, Ba Jin, Hugo
Ball, Wassily Kandinsky, Nestor Makhno, Thomas Merton & William S. Burroughs).
> Believe you me,
>there are enough French and Germans and
>miscelaneous others here for any politically
>active Merkins to go all postal on.
Too true. Even the small faction of us here who are "libertarian
socialists" (radical Greens to Anarcho-Communists) have major arguements about
trusting - or not trusting - social/cultural change to the masses and the so-call
_lumpenproletariat_... with the nasty charges of "intellectual class elitistism"
and "bleedin'hearted bourgeois liberalism" being tossed like over-ripe
>We could turn
>this place into a political flamefest royale, if
>we wanted to. No thank you, we don't want any.
Hear hear! Besides my abestos suit from my Auxlanging days
is sorely outta date... and it took a very hard battering from my highly
ill-advised excursion into the uber-fanatically on-line world of _Star Trek vs.
>> It was _extremely_ sarcastic.
>You got that right, pal!
>> could have
>> > been a bit _more_ the opposite of sarcastic
>> (what is
>> > it?).
*gRRR-ssssnaRRRL-ssssPpPuTTTTeRRR!* Frik _nice_!!! ;)
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