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Re: an announcement...

From:Dan Sulani <dnsulani@...>
Date:Friday, September 24, 1999, 11:12
>On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:17:07 -0700 Barry Garcia ><Barry_Garcia@...> writes: >> dnsulani@internet-zahav.net writes: >> > What is more interesting, perhaps, is that there are also rules for >> >writing >> >words "imported" from another language in Hebew letters without >> vowels! > >> I have always wondered about that! I wonder for instance, how would >> my >> name be rendered =)? I find the semitic scripts interesting that you >> can >> get away without writing in the vowels and still understand the >> words.
On 24 Sep, Steg wrote:
> >Probably: >bet - (alef) - reish - yud >gimel - (alef) - reish - samekh - yud - hei/alef > >There'd probably be those _alef_s in there to mark the As. >I'm not sure whether an Israeli would use _hei_ or _alef_ to mark the A >at the end of Garcia....i'd use an alef.
I just asked my (sabra) kids. I asked each of them in a different room to write a name that I would pronounce for them, in Hebrew, as if they were beginning a letter to the person. I realize that a sample of 2 isn't very statistically significant, but for what it's worth, here are the results: They both wrote the name Barry Garcia : bet - reish - yud gimel - reish - samekh - yud - hei But understand that I pronounced the "a" in "Barry" with a mid front vowel ([E] ?). My kids (who are in high school) told me that, had the name been pronounced with (what I would call) a low vowel ([&] or [a]) they would have spelled "Barry" as bet-alef-reish-yud, adding the alef to indicate lowness of vowel. (So Barry, how do you pronounce it? ) In "Garcia", I pronounced it with the stress on -ci-. The unstressed nature of the first syllable tells them not to put an alef in. Writing it as gimel - alef - reish would mean that it was pronounced with the stress on the first syllable and/or the first syllable's /a/ was [a:] (lengthened.). Dan Sulani -------------------------------------------------------------------- likehsna rtem zuv tikuhnuh auag inuvuz vaka'a. A word is an awesome thing.