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Re: negation and compounding

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Monday, June 28, 1999, 6:33
Joe Mondello wrote:
>=20 > In English, most or all negative words formed from non-negative words h=
ave n-
> or no- in them
Used to be even more such as: Nill =3D will not (believed to be the first part of willy-nilly - "will I, nill I?") Nis =3D is not In Old English: Neom =3D ne eom (am not) Naebbe (sp?) =3D ne haebbe =3D have not (this, I think, might've survived= =20 into Early Modern English as nave) Naes =3D ne waes =3D was not I sometimes like to coin even more n- words, like: nam (am not) nare (are not) nad (had not) nas (was not) nere (were not) nould (would not)
> fold-foolish (lit. f + [english] old, this is a bilingual compund)
So, the -old is exactly the same meaning as our "old"? So, "fould" is literally "young"?
> Are there any other languages (I mean, of course there are, I am just >=
looking for examples) in which negative words are consistently=20
> compounded with other words in such a fashion?
Well, in Watakass=ED, _fil_, "not" (interesting co-incidence with your "fu") can be compounded with any word to negate. There are also several prefixes that have fil- merged with a positive suffix, examples: Pas-: Be able to Fas-: Be unable to (fil--pas- would mean "be able to not"; double hyphen means that other prefixes can go between them) Pisi-/Pisy-: Know how to Filpis-: Not know how to Lib(a)-: Must Filb(a)-: Must not Ni-: Want to Fin-: Not want to As well as at least one word that was fused to the fil- La: Or Fa (sometimes Fla): Nor _Fil_ is usually a free word, when it becomes a prefix, it may acquire a different, or specialized, meaning. Fil- usually means something like "exact opposite, un-", while _fil_ simply means "not". In addition, there are many examples of words with fil- that have no positive counterpart, like _filfak=EDyasa_ (still) from fil- (not) fak=ED (go) -ya= sa (adj.), thus, "unmoving", but *fak=EDyasa is not a word. --=20 Yaw=EDntasva natab=ED, plansaf=ED nlak=FAsi The boy dies giving birth to the man http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/Conlang/W.html http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/Books.html ICQ #: 18656696 AIM screen-name: NikTailor