Re: Person distinctions in languages?

 --- "J. 'Mach' Wust" <j_mach_wust@...> schrieb:

>
> -- "Steven Williams" <feurieaux@...> schrieb:
> >Hi, or rather, [kry@s] or [g_0ry@s] or [!\y@s_<] or
> >however J. 'Mach' Wust decided it was really
> >pronounced.
>
> :)
>
> I've made up my mind that the most appropiate
> analysis is [kry@_^s:]. However, that's a local
> dialect very different from standard German,
Swiss, or some other wacky southern dialect, right?

> which would rather use ['gRy:s@] or, less northern,
> ['g_0Ry:s@] (which I believe is completely
> equivalent to ['kRy:s@]).
Yeah, the pronunciation I learned as a foreigner is
something like [gRy:s@]. Am I right to interpret the
[r] phonetically as an alveolar tap or trill, rather
than the typical German uvular approximant?

> Note that the [@] in the ending is totally unrelated
> to the [@] in the diphthong and that the dialectal
> consonant length is distinctive (e.g. /pIs/ 'be!'
> or 'until' vs. /pIs:/ 'bite').
Whoa, the imperative of 'sein' in that dialect is not
'sei(en Sie)'? How does that work out historically?
Did German historically have more than one rootword
for 'be', like Old English, like maybe a stem that
gave the modern /sein/, /sind/, /sei/, /seien/, /seid/
and so on, and another that gave the /bin/, /bist/?

I know PIE had something like *hes, *wes and *bhu for
'be' in various meanings; does anyone know how they
transmitted to the Germanic languages, esp. German and
English?

>It's not really a greeting, though it may be used at
> the end of a letter/message, just before the name,
> in a similar fashion as "regards" (if I'm not
> wrong). Literally, it's 'greetings'.
You're right. Remember me using 'regards'
[r\I."gAr\dz] in response to an earlier thread about
the German usage of /Grüsse/, or something like that?
It's perfectly permissible to use /regards/ in a
semi-formal context, like from one business associate
to another. I just used it because I like how it
sounds, despite the relatively informal atmosphere of
this list.


	

	
		
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