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Re: Lateralization

From:Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
Date:Thursday, November 23, 2000, 15:58
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:18:24 +0000 Keith Alasdair Mylchreest
<kam@...> writes:

> according > to whether they were originally voiced, voiceless or voiceless and > ejective > (with simultanious glottal stop). I'm not sure I entirely believe > this, [t'] > I can manage, a stop with double articulation, alveolar and glottal, > but > [(t)s'] ? and [T'] ?? let alone [hl'], I can't see how you can be > making a > stop in one part of the vocal tract and a sibilant/fricative in > another > (unless of course the original semites were aliens with two vocal > tracts).
- I have never found out whether i can pronounce any ejective properly, but i don't have much of a problem doing what feels like the same thing in the back of my throat when saying [t] to get [t'], as [s] to get [s']. [hl] is a whole nother problem altogether!
> Proto / d dz D l t ts s~S? T hl t' ts' T' > hl' / > Arab. / d z D l t s s T S t' s' D' > d' / > Ethiop./ d z z l t s s s hl t' s' s' > hl'(?) / > Heb. / d~D z z l t~T s S S hl t' s' s' > s' / > Akk. / d z z l t s S S S t' s' s' > s' / > Aram. / d~D z d~D l t~T s S t~T s t' s' t' > " /
- The chart seems good to me, at least from what i know of Hebrew and Aramaic.
> Hebrew /hl/ is 'sin' that is a 'shin' /S/ with a dot top left rather > than > top right. Since the points are a rather late addition to Hebrew > writing > can we be sure that this distinction really exited, and if it did > that 'sin' > actually stood for a lateral fricative? (Could be serious if you're > called > Sarah, sorry Hlarah!).
- That's how we *know* that the distinction survived into Masoretic times. No use designing arbitrary distinctions into an orthographic system. Other distinctions, such as <hhet> /H/ /x/, and <`ayin> /3/ /G/, weren't marked (although they probably would have used a similar rightdot/leftdot system) because they had already disappeared, the velar phonemes merging with the pharyngeal phonemes, probably under influence from the developing beged-kefet system of /bgdkpt/ [vGDxfT] fricativization. The pronounciation of <ssin> as /hl/ might have survived until that time, or it might have already merged with /s/. Either way, there was still a distinction in pronounciation between different occurances of The Grapheme Which Looks Somewhat Like <W>, thereby necessitating a diacritic distinction to inform the uninitiated. -Stephen (Steg)
> Keith