Re: Lateralization
From: | Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...> |
Date: | Thursday, November 23, 2000, 15:58 |
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:18:24 +0000 Keith Alasdair Mylchreest
<kam@...> writes:
> according
> to whether they were originally voiced, voiceless or voiceless and
> ejective
> (with simultanious glottal stop). I'm not sure I entirely believe
> this, [t']
> I can manage, a stop with double articulation, alveolar and glottal,
> but
> [(t)s'] ? and [T'] ?? let alone [hl'], I can't see how you can be
> making a
> stop in one part of the vocal tract and a sibilant/fricative in
> another
> (unless of course the original semites were aliens with two vocal
> tracts).
-
I have never found out whether i can pronounce any ejective properly, but
i don't have much of a problem doing what feels like the same thing in
the back of my throat when saying [t] to get [t'], as [s] to get [s'].
[hl] is a whole nother problem altogether!
> Proto / d dz D l t ts s~S? T hl t' ts' T'
> hl' /
> Arab. / d z D l t s s T S t' s' D'
> d' /
> Ethiop./ d z z l t s s s hl t' s' s'
> hl'(?) /
> Heb. / d~D z z l t~T s S S hl t' s' s'
> s' /
> Akk. / d z z l t s S S S t' s' s'
> s' /
> Aram. / d~D z d~D l t~T s S t~T s t' s' t'
> " /
-
The chart seems good to me, at least from what i know of Hebrew and
Aramaic.
> Hebrew /hl/ is 'sin' that is a 'shin' /S/ with a dot top left rather
> than
> top right. Since the points are a rather late addition to Hebrew
> writing
> can we be sure that this distinction really exited, and if it did
> that 'sin'
> actually stood for a lateral fricative? (Could be serious if you're
> called
> Sarah, sorry Hlarah!).
-
That's how we *know* that the distinction survived into Masoretic times.
No use designing arbitrary distinctions into an orthographic system.
Other distinctions, such as <hhet> /H/ /x/, and <`ayin> /3/ /G/, weren't
marked (although they probably would have used a similar rightdot/leftdot
system) because they had already disappeared, the velar phonemes merging
with the pharyngeal phonemes, probably under influence from the
developing beged-kefet system of /bgdkpt/ [vGDxfT] fricativization. The
pronounciation of <ssin> as /hl/ might have survived until that time, or
it might have already merged with /s/. Either way, there was still a
distinction in pronounciation between different occurances of The
Grapheme Which Looks Somewhat Like <W>, thereby necessitating a diacritic
distinction to inform the uninitiated.
-Stephen (Steg)
> Keith