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Re: CHAT: Rare Phonetics

From:Eric Christopherson <rakko@...>
Date:Friday, June 22, 2001, 21:43
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 04:06:36PM -0400, Muke Tever wrote:
> I found the few non-IPA diacritics confusing, and the typography didn't > help... apparently the diacritics were just thrown on, and in some places > are misleading... is that a gamma by Sui, or voiceless /v/ ? Nahuatl has > what looks like a normal phi, but it's got a diacritic... [Ack! I just > zoomed in on these really close. The Sui phoneme appears to be a creaky > gamma. whose tilde was completely invisible for some reason. And I thought > the diacritic on the Nahuatl phi was "raised" but apparently it's > "non-syllabic"?]
I can't for the life of me figure out that Nahuatl one. My best guess is that it's supposed to be linguolabial, but I'm not sure; the IPA diacritic looks like the McDonalds arches, according to one recent post, whereas this one seems to be just one arch with the stem of the phi going through it. I've never heard of any phi-like sound in Nahuatl, but I suppose it could have one...
> But here I'm just being picky...
Well, pickiness is justified when the (lack of) quality of something conceals its content. -- Eric Christopherson | Rakko