Re: CHAT: Rare Phonetics
From: | J Matthew Pearson <pearson@...> |
Date: | Friday, June 22, 2001, 18:37 |
Danny Wier wrote:
> This is an interest of mine, as most of yas know. It's from a PDF document I
> found on languages that can be distinguished from others by the occurence of
> consonants and/or vowels not found in other languages. 451 languages are listed
> in the document.
>
> Some examples:
> [snip]
> Malagasy: [d.r?], [t.r?] (rhotacized and glottalized retroflex stops, I think)
Ah yes. I've always had trouble characterising Malagasy /tr/ and /dr/. English
speakers tend to pronounce them [tS] and [dZ], respectively, but that's not quite
right. They're definitely less rounded and less affricated than the English
sounds. I've always suspected that they're retroflex, but as far as I know,
nobody's ever done any palatography studies to confirm that. When I try to
reproduce them, I end up making retroflex stops with a faintly rhotic release, so
that's how I generally describe them. They don't sound especially glottalised to
me.
Matt.
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