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Mormons in Brithenig/Aelyan North America

From:dirk elzinga <dirk.elzinga@...>
Date:Wednesday, April 12, 2000, 18:45
Hey.

This is rather lengthy, and is not exactly about conlangs. I did
want to contribute to the thread, though. I've tried to answer
all of the various questions in one post; if I've missed any,
let me know!

On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, John Cowan wrote:

> dirk elzinga wrote: > > > Missed this the first time through. I suppose Tepa can be > > squeezed in there as well, but my framing story for Tepa is > > firmly rooted in the *here*. From your conversations about > > *there*, there doesn't seem to be much room for Mormonism, which > > is an integral part of the history of Tepa documentation. > > Not sure why. The L.D.S. might have remained in Nauvoo (Illinois, IIRC) > in the North American League, which is more tolerant of unusual religions > and cultures than the 19th century U.S., but some Mormons at least might > have settled the Utah Basin.
Part of the problem is the particularly Mormon attitude towards the American continent. One of the leitmotivs of the Book of Mormon is that the New World is a Promised Land, reserved for the faithful and the obedient. The proliferation of wildly divergent cultures and religions in the Brithenig/Aelya New World takes a lot of wind out of those culturally isolationist sails. Certainly in the 19th century isolationism was a prevailing attitude among Mormons. Now that the LDS Church is a worldwide organization, these sentiments aren't as pronounced (but are still there). On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, And Rosta wrote:
> Wouldn't be much room for Mormonism in Utah, or in the There Universe?
If Mormonism existed There, it may not have moved to the Great Basin, as John pointed out. Assuming, of course, that there wasn't any persecution directed against Mormons There. And it wasn't just polygamy which aroused the ire of the Mormons' neighbors: they tended to patronize only Mormon businesses, didn't mingle much, and voted as a bloc (this could be politically devastating; Nauvoo was the most populous city in Illinois at the time--1841-44); they also had a "chosen people" mentality which irritated others. In short, they were seen as rather "uppity" by their neighbors. Part of the persecution was intended to take them down a peg or two; the publication of the doctrine of polygamy iced it for the non-Mormons.
> Racking (or is it _wracking_) my meagre general knowledge, I thought > Mormonism was born in the Lancashire cotton mills (perhaps not too far > from the university where I teach), and I don't see why that shouldn't have > happened There.
The Church was officially founded in Fayette, New York, on 6 April 1830. Joseph Smith, the founder, was an itinerant farmer/laborer originally from Vermont. During the late 1830s and 1840s, there was a great deal of missionarying in Canada and Great Britain (the first foreign language the Church published in was Welsh!). Preston was the location of the first proselyting efforts in England itself. Many of the Mormons who travelled west to the Great Basin were thus of British stock, either from British America (Canada) or Great Britain itself. This large British substratum gave rise to particular features of Utah English which are not shared by other USians.
> > Probably polygamy would have survived without the intolerant pressure of > > an imperial U.S. > > I thought polygamy perseveres into the present day. Does it not?
To which On Fri, 9 Apr 100, John Cowan replied:
> > That's a sticky issue, and I speak under correction. Polygamy as a *fact* > survives, in the sense that there are households containing a single > man, multiple women, and various offspring. Neither the secular government > nor the L.D.S. church recognizes it. On questioning, members of such > households generally deny that their relationship amounts to polygamous > marriage, for obvious prudential reasons. > > Polygamy as a Mormon *doctrine* was confined to a certain period for > which I have no dates handy, but before and after that period it was > not a doctrine. > > It is a secular fact that the U.S. government made it eminently clear that > Utah could not be admitted as a state unless the church abandoned the > doctrine of polygamy. Just afterwards, the then head of the church > had a divine revelation instructing him to abandon it. Draw your own > conclusions. > > The Utah Civil Liberties Union (a branch of the American C.L.U.) has > a project underway to legalize polygamy as a matter of religious > freedom. Prospects are unclear.
Polygamy does indeed exist today; I grew up within half a mile from three different polygamist families--the Barlows, the Potters, and the Allreds--representing three different strains of modern "Mormon Fundamentalism". However, it should be understood that modern polygamy as practiced by the Fundamentalists is not a continuation of the 19th century practice, but rather a return to it. In 1890, Wilford Woodruff, the President of the Church, issued the Manifesto which proclaimed that plural marriages were not being performed in any US Territory. Critics point to this particular wording and maintain that there were plural marriages being performed in Mexico, where the Church had several colonies. President Joseph F. Smith later announced (under pressure from the US Congress) that there were no more plural marriages being performed anywhere. [What John says is true: this move is seen as bowing to political pressure. But it wasn't only in response to Utah's proposed statehood. Earlier legislation (the Edmunds-Tucker Act, IIRC) was designed to strip the Church of all of its assets and effectively outlaw it as an organization, based solely on the issue of polygamy. Later Supreme Court rulings declared polygmay to be unconstitutional, and so this political move (the Manifesto) was also intended to save the Church from financial and legal ruin.] In the 1930's, a group of men gathered in a home in the Salt Lake Valley; they claimed that their fathers had been given special dispensation from the 3rd President of the Church, John Taylor (Woodruff was the 4th, and Smith was the 6th), to continue the practice of plural marriage, no matter what happened after. It can be pretty conclusively demonstrated that polygamy was not being practiced at the time, so the claim that current polygamy is a continuation of the earlier practice is not true. It is of no little interest (and of some consternation among many Mormons) that in neither the Manifesto issued by Woodruff nor the restatement by President Smith was plural marriage as a doctrine repudiated or rejected. This is taken by many to mean that it is still doctrinal. There is much speculation (among those who indulge themselves) that polygamy will someday be reinstituted as a practice among Church members, but I'm not holding my breath. I should also say that I am not aware of any effort on the part of the Utah chapter of the ACLU to legalize polygamy. In fact, the big news lately is that anti-polygamy laws (included in the Utah constitution at the insistence of the Federal Gov't) need to be strengthened and more rigorously enforced. An incident a couple of years ago brought this issue to the forefront again. A teenage girl was severely beaten by her father for refusing to enter into a polygamous (and incestuous) relationship with her uncle. This spurred the creation of a group called Tapestry of Polygamy which consists of former polygamous wives who have repeatedly testified of their mistreatment and abuse at the hands of their husbands. I don't recall what the ACLU's response (if any) to this whole mess has been, but it would have been very imprudent for them to have spoken out in favor of polygamy at the time. Of course, all of this has nothing to do with Tepa itself, only with the framing story I have set up for its discovery. Tepa could very well exist within the Brithenig/Aelya New World (I harbor suspicions that they were the original Anasazi). I'm not sure that I'm ready to put it there, though ... Dirk -- Dirk Elzinga dirk.elzinga@m.cc.utah.edu