Re: Nasal semivowels/fricatives?

At 22:17 15/02/00 EST, you wrote:
>Technically (for me at least) a "nasalized" stop would occur when one
>(inadvertantly?) nasalizes all one's speech -- talking thru your nose -- or
>just specific words with nasals in them where the nasalization carries over.
>My guess would be that Fr. "angelique" is all nasalized up to the -que /k/;
>how about "angeliquement"--
>totally nasalized? even the /k/ a little bit?
>
In my speech at least, I pronounce /a~Z~elik/ and /a~Z~elikma~/, i.e. the
nasalisation is stopped very rapidly and doesn't spread (only a little to
the /Z/ because it's a continuant following a nasal vowel). It's a
well-known feature of French that nasalisation doesn't spread in this
language (certainly because it's a phonemical feature, more than in most
other languages, which is used to oppose lots of words).

>>>Of course they are not the easiest sounds of Tj'a-ts'a~n, but I'm pretty
> sure of my description, and I can hear them (and they are different from
> prenasalized stops, as the nasalization stays until the end of the
> consonnant).>>
>    Hmmm.  That I'd have to hear.  It could well be that as a French speaker
>you are much more aware of what's going on, given the role of nasalization in
>French (which I read but seldom speak, after being told I sounded "comme une
>vache espagnole").
>
I understand. French people a quite difficult with their language (and I
sometimes fall into this default too) and want it to be pronounced
perfectly. You shouldn't listen to those people though :) .

> >>Well, of course, I may be wrong in my description, but I'm pretty sure I'm
> not. And anyway, Tj'a-ts'a~n is supposedly spoken by aliens, so they may be
> different enough so that they can produce sounds we can't (but then, I
> would like to know what I produce myself, because now I'm worrying about my
> own humanity :) ).
>  >>
>I don't think you need to worry! :)
>
Thanks :) .

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