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Re: Greetings

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Sunday, May 19, 2002, 18:53
Greetings all! Now that I've passed my quals and have internet access
at my apartment, I can come back to one my of my loves:  conlanging.
Last time I got off, I had just started working on a formal grammar
of Phaleran, but have gotten sidetracked to a large extent by my studies
and various extracurricular activities.  I hope to post some of my
material sometime soon, so keep an eye out for it! I'm eager to see
what y'all have to say.

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Our friend Ray, in response to John, wrote:
>>As for "whole land" and "whole and", "and" is pronounced /@n/ unless >>special stress is placed on it, so here again there is no real question >>of phonetic or phonological gemination. > >...and, of course, the syllable final "dark-l" is quite a different sound >from the 'light-l' at the beginning of 'land' in practically all versions >of English (I think the only exceptions occur in some Irish English >dialects); the dark-l tends towards [w] and, in London and much of the >south-east of England has actually become [w] in collquial speech. I think >this sound change is known in some other Englishes (Oz??).
Indeed, in many Southern US dialects, the distinction between /l/ and /w/ has been neutralized postvocalically to [w]. This is, I suspect, one reason why people from outside the South hearing these dialects using the pronoun "y'all" sometimes think it's being used as a singular: [jAw] sounds an awful lot like [j@w] or [jM:], both of which pronunciations are not uncommon in the Southern US for the singular pronoun "you". (That, and the discourse-functional reasons I've mentioned on this list before.) ===================================================================== Thomas Wier "...koruphàs hetéras hetére:isi prosápto:n / Dept. of Linguistics mú:tho:n mè: teléein atrapòn mían..." University of Chicago "To join together diverse peaks of thought / 1010 E. 59th Street and not complete one road that has no turn" Chicago, IL 60637 Empedocles, _On Nature_, on speculative thinkers

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