Re: THEORY: The fourth person

Roger Mills wrote:

>Danny Wier wrote:
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>>My next question is: can fourth person apply to subjects, or only objects?
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>If I understand this correctly, I think so:
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>"He thinks/says that he knows"
>"He is taller than he thinks"
>where the two "he"s do not refer to the same person.
>The problem has cropped up in Kash in similar sentences, where we solve it
>by using a sequence of verbs for same-subject, but a subordinate clause for
>different-subject.
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>yapila (ya)kaya 'he-1 thinks (he-1)-knows'
>yapila re yakaya 'he-1 thinks that he-2-knows'
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>lavi yavital alo pilani 'more he-tall-1 from=than think-his-1'
>lavi yavital alo re yapila ~pilani 'more he-tall-1 from=than that
>he-thinks-2 ~think-his-2
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That's the obviate third person of which I spoke.  In some languages, it
also applies to Narratives.