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Re: OT: Junk

From:J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>
Date:Tuesday, September 9, 2003, 17:31
In a message dated 2003:09:09 09:34:51 AM, andjo@FREE.FR writes:

>I was recently told that "junk" is the general Chinese term for "ship".
:P~~~ *thPttt!*
>I thought this would be the best forum I've got access to to learn i) if >that's true,
Nope, not true.
>ii) if so, do the Chinese have a special term for the ship-types >we westerners call "junks"
Cantonese, Mandarin, or Hakka, etc. ??? There are many regionalects to choose from... esp'ly along the coast and along the big river systems.
>and iii) from what kind of Chinese is the >word "junk" derived - it does not look much Mandarinesque.
obsolete French _juncque_ from Portuguese _junco_, from Dutch _jonk_, Javanese __djong_ (source: OED) --- Hanuman Zhang, MangaLanger Language[s] change[s]: vowels shift, phonologies crash-&-burn, grammars leak, morpho-syntactics implode, lexico-semantics mutate, lexicons explode, orthographies reform, typographies blip-&-beep, slang flashes, stylistics warp... linguistic (R)evolutions mark each-&-every quantum leap... "Some Languages Are Crushed to Powder but Rise Again as New Ones" - title of a chapter on pidgins and creoles, John McWhorter, _The Power of Babel: A Natural History of Language_ = ! gw3rraa leg0set kaakaa! ! riis3rvaa, saaIlvaa, riikuu, sk0paa-g0mii aen riizijkl0! = (Fight Linguistic Waste! Save, Salvage, Recover, Scavenge and Recycle!)

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