Re: Announcing Ale, the first ever Mungayödic daughter language!

Dan Seriff wrote:


>Well, sort of. I only started thinking about it last night, after
>finishing most of the material on sound change in Trask. At the moment
>I've got three phases worth of unconditioned phonological changes that
>took place over a period of about 1500 years.
>
>I'm using 0/ for a null marker. A V or C in parentheses stands for any
>vowel or consonant.
>
>First wave (~ -2000 yrs, called the "Glottal Collapse" by native
linguists):
>Also called Old Ale
>
>q -> k          iI -> i@
>? -> 0/         iu -> ij
>h -> 0/         ao -> Aw
>l -> w          N -> n
>gr -> kr
>dv -> dz
>
>Second wave (~ -900 yrs, the "Great Fronting"):
>Middle Ale
>
>x -> S                  ij -> il                uw/Uw -> w
>j -> l                  -(V)m -> -(V)~
>T -> s (apical)         -(V)n -> -(V)~
>D -> z (apical)         -t/-d -> 0/
>all affricates -> s/z (laminal)
>
>sk -> S
>(C)r -> r
>
>Loss of nasality (~ -700 yrs):
>
>V~ -> V
>
>Third wave (~ -500 yrs, "Great Vowel Collapse"):
>Modern Ale, or just Ale
>
>i@ -> i:                                I -> i
>(C)j(V) -> (C)i:                e -> i
>& -> E:                         V -> @
>ei -> E:                                Y -> @<rhotic>
>a -> A:                         O -> A
>Ai -> A:                                U -> u
>OY -> o:
>u -> u:
>i -> i:
>
>The short vowels /E/ and /o/ remain the same. This vowel change
>certainly needs a bit of shuffling for realism, but I think I've got the
>basic shift worked out.
>
>So, the Mungayöd word /Ibeidv&/, father, would change thus:
>
>1: /Ibeidz&/
>2: /Ibeiz&/
>3: /ibE:zE:/
>
>/fiuvUljO/, daughter (I really like this one):
>
>1: /fijvUljO/
>2: /filvUljO/
>3: /fi:lvuli:/
>
>/imoqU/, brother:
>
>1: /imokU/
>2: /imokU/
>3: /i:moku/
>
>Is this sound change plausible?
All plausible, but a couple minor considerations:  (a) in general one might
expect stress to play a role; (b) IMO in Stage 3 it might be more
logical/symmetrical for /o/ to merge with /U/ > /u/, in line with /e,I/ >
/i/-- but I'm sure you could come up with reasons why not.

Bigger problem with *fiuvUljO--
Stage 1:  iu > ij, so ** fijvUljO    OK
    and l > w, so **fijvUwjO    this is the problem I think
Stage 2:  j > l, so  **filvUwlO    another problem
    and  Uw > w, so **filvwlO
so you have no environment left for the final syllable in Stage 3, (C)j(V) >
(C)i:

Unless I've overlooked something.............?

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