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Re: Tolkien's "hidden" conlang

From:Wesley Parish <wes.parish@...>
Date:Monday, September 27, 2004, 12:13
Thanks.  I've just had a look at it - you know, there's a story by an
Australian children's author, called "The Nargun and the Stars"?

It's got nothing to do with Tolkien to the best of my knowledge, and nothing
to do with Dwarvish - just a coincidence. ;)

Wesley Parish

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:09, Steg Belsky wrote:
> On Sep 27, 2004, at 12:27 PM, Wesley Parish wrote: > > the one the Dwarves spoke. > > It seems to have triconsonantal bases. Eg, the Moria tomb inscription: > > Balin Fundinul > > Uzbadkazaddu:mu > > Balin son of fundin lord of moria > > and Gimli's war-cry before Helm's Deep: > > Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-menu > > Assuming Fundin to be a human name like Balin, -ul is then a > > patronymic. > > uzbad would be z-b-d, to rule, with zero grade between z-b and a prefix > > indicating the actor - ie, the lord. du:mu would likewise be d-w-m - > > to dig, > > with a genitive -u. b-r-k is "edged weapon", "axe", with the vowel > > pattern > > -a-u- indicating the plural. One would expect Khazud for "Dwarves". > > The major problem is these are the only traces of the language Tolkien > > took the time to develop. > > Am I talking through a hole in my head? > > -- > > Wesley Parish > > * * * > > No you're not! > Although "Dwarves" is attested - _khazâd_. > The -a-u- pattern of _baruk_ might be a plural *construct* form. > > Check out: > http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/khuzdul.htm > > > -Stephen (Steg) > "Let them come. > There is one dwarf yet in Moria who still draws breath." > ~ gimli son of gloin, LotR:FotR (movie version, at least)
-- Wesley Parish * * * Clinersterton beademung - in all of love. RIP James Blish * * * Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?" You ask, "What is the most important thing?" Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata." I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."

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