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Re: Whistling Shibilants in IPA? Help!

From:Paul Roser <pkroser@...>
Date:Monday, July 19, 2004, 14:26
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 00:44:36 -0400, Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
wrote:

>Now, a "while" later, while i still don't know whether the "whistling >that sounds like Scary Alien Beez" (in the words of a friend) is >actually a form of Tuvan Throat Singing or not, but i like the sounds >(both voiced and voiceless) so much that i want to add them to the >phonemic inventory of a conlang. > >I just don't know how to describe it. > >It feels like a modified /S/ or /Z/ (depending on voicedness), with the >tip of the tongue rising towards the alveolar ridge and the deep back >of the tongue retreating pharyngealwards slightly. >So what is it? An apical /S/? A /s/ with retracted tongue root? An >apical /S/ with slight pharyngealization? Maybe a laminal /s/ with >raising? >Help! :-P (please?)
I can sort of get a whistling sound if I make an apico-alveolar sibilant, but the whistling becomes more pronounced if I added labialization (lips shaped like I'm pronouncing /o/ or /u/). Adding pharyngealization/tongue root retraction does seem to increase the whistle somewhat. So a pharyngealized or RTR apico-alveolar, I'd guess. Bfowu

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Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>