Re: Whistling Shibilants in IPA? Help!

Steg Belsky wrote:

> So, a while (=few years) ago we were talking about Tuvan throat singing
> here, and someone posted the URL of a website (or maybe i went looking
> for it?) with instructions about how to produce the multilayerd sound.
>
> Now, a "while" later, while i still don't know whether the "whistling
> that sounds like Scary Alien Beez" (in the words of a friend) is
> actually a form of Tuvan Throat Singing or not, but i like the sounds
> (both voiced and voiceless) so much that i want to add them to the
> phonemic inventory of a conlang.
>
> I just don't know how to describe it.
>
> It feels like a modified /S/ or /Z/ (depending on voicedness), with the
> tip of the tongue rising towards the alveolar ridge and the deep back
> of the tongue retreating pharyngealwards slightly.
> So what is it?  An apical /S/?  A /s/ with retracted tongue root?  An
> apical /S/  with slight pharyngealization?  Maybe a laminal /s/ with
> raising?
> Help! :-P  (please?)
/x\/ maybe? Not sure if I'm doing it right.

A former roommate of mine had a CD of some Tuvan throat singing. IIRC it
was mostly vocalic.