Re: Plastic Surgery on a Conlang
From: | Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> |
Date: | Saturday, April 20, 2002, 20:08 |
En réponse à Christian Thalmann <cinga@...>:
>
> Indeed, |kowtre| (=coutre= in popular transcription) would be
> possible. It would have to be pronounced /ow/, though.
>
Well, in fast speech it would probably be simplified as [o:] (after all, that's
the origin of U lenghtening O in Japanese writing, at least IIRC).
> The post you are referring to was about a completely new language
> project with the provisional working title Caelva /"kElva/, which is
> going for a Celtic kind of aesthetics with some unconventional
> elements (including my beloved /Z/). =)
>
:)) At least I had the right author :)) . See, I'm not too bad at following
your posts :)) . Funny enough, my Maggel is also based on the Celtic (more
exactly Q-Celtic) kind of aesthetics, having a script derived from the New
Irish Alphabet. It's first form was invented in reaction of my discovering
Irish Gaelic :)) . But its orthography is in fact worse than Irish and English
put together (as you have seen :)) ).
> Little tidbit: sív /Si:v/ "to live", an sív /andZi:v/ "he lives".
>
Funny enough, Maggel also has this rule of inserting a stop between a nasal and
another sound when the nasal cannot assimilate. It just works differently (in
front of a /S/, /n/ would just assimilate in position (I cannot represent that
because I cannot find a sign for postalveolar position, although there is one
for dental position). On the other hand, a stop (usually [t], sometimes [d]) is
introduced before a bilabial or labiodental consonant, so that /nf/ is actually
[ntf] :)) .
> The project has lost its initial impetus, which was motivated by my
> aesthetic displeasure with Obrenje, which in turn has been alleviated
> by my "plastic surgery".
>
:))
> Some phonetic stuff on Caelva is available at my site. I've also
> developed a table of vector inflections, which I might add too. A
> vector is an auxiliary verb that carries all inflections for persons
> and tenses. Besides the standard vector, which can be translated as
> "do", "be" or even "go", there are also other for negation, for
> modal verbs, and for two select full verbs "give" and "have", which in
> turn can be used for fixed expressions.
>
>
http://catharsis.netpeople.ch/langmaking/caelva.htm
>
Interesting stuff: Celtic-like mutations associated with Basque-like
conjugations (which are too basically periphrastic, except for a few verbs in a
few tenses) and Quenya-like orthography. Actually, it doesn't look unlike Amman-
Iar :) .
Christophe.
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