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Re: Plastic Surgery on a Conlang

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Saturday, April 20, 2002, 20:08
En réponse à Christian Thalmann <cinga@...>:

> > Indeed, |kowtre| (=coutre= in popular transcription) would be > possible. It would have to be pronounced /ow/, though. >
Well, in fast speech it would probably be simplified as [o:] (after all, that's the origin of U lenghtening O in Japanese writing, at least IIRC).
> The post you are referring to was about a completely new language > project with the provisional working title Caelva /"kElva/, which is > going for a Celtic kind of aesthetics with some unconventional > elements (including my beloved /Z/). =) >
:)) At least I had the right author :)) . See, I'm not too bad at following your posts :)) . Funny enough, my Maggel is also based on the Celtic (more exactly Q-Celtic) kind of aesthetics, having a script derived from the New Irish Alphabet. It's first form was invented in reaction of my discovering Irish Gaelic :)) . But its orthography is in fact worse than Irish and English put together (as you have seen :)) ).
> Little tidbit: sív /Si:v/ "to live", an sív /andZi:v/ "he lives". >
Funny enough, Maggel also has this rule of inserting a stop between a nasal and another sound when the nasal cannot assimilate. It just works differently (in front of a /S/, /n/ would just assimilate in position (I cannot represent that because I cannot find a sign for postalveolar position, although there is one for dental position). On the other hand, a stop (usually [t], sometimes [d]) is introduced before a bilabial or labiodental consonant, so that /nf/ is actually [ntf] :)) .
> The project has lost its initial impetus, which was motivated by my > aesthetic displeasure with Obrenje, which in turn has been alleviated > by my "plastic surgery". >
:))
> Some phonetic stuff on Caelva is available at my site. I've also > developed a table of vector inflections, which I might add too. A > vector is an auxiliary verb that carries all inflections for persons > and tenses. Besides the standard vector, which can be translated as > "do", "be" or even "go", there are also other for negation, for > modal verbs, and for two select full verbs "give" and "have", which in > turn can be used for fixed expressions. > > http://catharsis.netpeople.ch/langmaking/caelva.htm >
Interesting stuff: Celtic-like mutations associated with Basque-like conjugations (which are too basically periphrastic, except for a few verbs in a few tenses) and Quenya-like orthography. Actually, it doesn't look unlike Amman- Iar :) . Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.