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Re: THEORY: Micro-Translation Excercise (was Re: THEORY: Natural language change (was Re: Charlie andI))

From:Gerald Koenig <jlk@...>
Date:Friday, September 24, 1999, 6:38
> with NJE id 6798 for CONLANG@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 > 19:27:11 -0400 > >Steg Belsky wrote: >> > It means "If you can understand this, you know too much" :) >> >> Now *that* sounds like a perfect translation excersize! :)
---------------------------------------------------------- ;;; Write or put text here. Return by searching for the semicolons. "If you can understand this, you know too much." Ros vuk kon eco, vu sav for. Suppose what may or may not be real, that you are able to understand this, if you are then you know too much. ---------------------------------------------------------- This translation into Nilenga-NGL gave me a chance to try out the writekit I am now rewriting, it's a good thing I did as I discovered I had deleted a whole section. Anyway, here are the lookups; found by searching with any editor's text search mechanism: Irrealis: "A modality that connotes that the proposition with which it is associated is nonactual or non-factual. I take the sense of the exercise to be that "You can understand this" may be irrealis, imagined only; or it may be the case that it is not only imagined but a fact, that is, true. See the diagrams below. ROS::- wo says suppose that "P" is imagined and possibly also real, ie, in-mind and possibly out-mind. (The out-mind possibility can be quantified with modals). Further, if "P" (subordinate clause) is factual, so is "Q", the main clause. Diagram for ROS: (Virtual timeline is above real timeline) ROS is ONE OF the LEFT PAIR or the RIGHT pair; ROR or ROM. And if ROM, then Q is realis. In mind only. In mind and out-mind. !!V-------@vvvvvv>--[+]----> OR: !!V-------@vvvvvvv>----[+]---> !-------------------[*]----> !--------@=======>----[*]---> ROR ROM vu::- you. (thank you, France.) ka::-can x is able to make "p" be true. vu+ka=vuk "Youc'n". Vuk is one of the contractions of a pronoun and a primary modal. itm sav tp N st acc SD def know nt like French "savoir"; see {kon} itm kon tp V st acc JD def know nt as in "kennen"; see "sav" itm for tp Adj st acc SD def too (much) Gerald Koenig, for the NGL project.
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