Theiling Online    Sitemap    Conlang Mailing List HQ   

USAGE: h&ppi? (was: RE: Importance of stress)

From:And Rosta <a.rosta@...>
Date:Sunday, February 20, 2000, 23:18
> At 9:36 pm -0500 26/1/00, Nik Taylor wrote: > >Matt Pearson wrote: > [...] > >[haepi] into > >> syllables, many native speakers will hesitate between [hae.pi] and > >> [haep.i].
[BTW, I'm an ambisyllabicity man myself, and take syllable structure to be relationally-based rather than constituency-based. (In English, that is, not Livagian.)]
> >But it's pronounced as the second, as shown by the allophones. > >Syllable-initial voiceless stops are aspirated, and vowels followed by > >voiceless obstruents are shorter. /h&.pi/ would be [h&:p_hi], while > >/h&p.i/ is [h&pi], the way it actually is. > > Is it? > > I know one region of Brittan where the pronunciation is ['happ_hi] with > clear gemmination and _marked_ aspiration. > > Elswhere ['h&ppi] seems not uncommon.
Are they both from South Wales? I don't recognize either from elsewhere. I might have suspected you were thinking of Geordie preglottalized stops, but your phonetic transcriptions are usually dead on the mark. --And.